Then why when I opened my new XR was my wife's cloud, iTunes, maps, Paypal account etc and who knows what else all over my phone ? It even says "Hi Barbara Lawler" Is that supposed to be Smart. It's OK now; but if I was in a bad relationship ?????????????????????
Are you fucking serious? Are you paid to astroturf? That didn’t happen, unless you signed her into all of those things. Period.
if apple started to make it a real business where they did not profit off the people maybe id care, but for me its the apple mafia, do not ever want to be any part of that, i will go android forever free, I also refust to pay the prices that this is made happen NO NONoNoNONONONO and fuk no, get real people it was the Aussies who said, the internet will only be good if it can take over the raidio, free is the way baby! the best things in life are
So many 1-post-wonders on this thread. The turfers are out...
Wow! How big of them to *ALLOW* opt out, if you can figure out how...
What about only violating privacy of users only if they opt *IN* ? Novel concept?
Stupid slogan. iPhone is a media device that sends and receives. What is on an iPhone doesn't stay on the iPhone if you text, use twitter, facebook, search google, send emails, etc....
Stupid post who doesn’t understand the point. Where do you people come from?
yes unless you live in china and apple will hand you over to die in speed of light ...in america its good PR to virtue signal ...Chinese death squads love apple
More astroturfers. AI, you have a problem here. Consider bringing the old rule back to limit posting right on new accounts.
Apple handed over the administration of their Chinese iCloud server to the proudly-communist Chinese government. "Don't worry" they chirped to hundreds of millions of heavily surveilled Chinese, "you can trust us when we say 'your insanely oppressive, tyrannical government doesn't have the keys!"'
Meanwhile Tim Cook fundraiser for the censorious far-Left SPLC and ADL, and gleefully accepts an award for participating with his fellow FAAGTYs in the simultaneous and complete deplatforming of social media critic (and long-time privacy advocate) Alex Jones ("oh, but Jones is mean!").
All while leaving anti-American, anti-Israel, Jew-and-Christian-baiting Louis Farrakhan free to incite millions on Apple's iTunes.
How can anyone committed to freedom take seriously any claims Tim Cook makes about iPhone users' privacy?
Oh my, heh... given my understanding about how Apple's lame photo sharing solutions work (by default, even?), I can actually see how this kind of thing (and others) could happen. Just turn it all off, and hope some day a real photo management solution comes along from someone.
I assume you're just trolling, but I'm going to ask a serious question. Is there a better solution on another platform? Does any other platform offer desktop, cloud, and mobile apps that sync images and edits between them?
Indeed he is a troll
Geez Louise...
Wasn't someone pointing out forum rules earlier today?
That is a brilliant ad, and a great play on the Vegas slogan. No doubt this is going to piss off a lot of people.
No, it's quite wrong actually.
There are many people that take photos while doing naughty things, only to have it pop up on the Apple TV screen saver at home a few seconds later.
Did you say at home? Did you forget to say this is under the user’s control? But... sorry that happened to you.
Oh my, heh... given my understanding about how Apple's lame photo sharing solutions work (by default, even?), I can actually see how this kind of thing (and others) could happen. Just turn it all off, and hope some day a real photo management solution comes along from someone.
I assume you're just trolling, but I'm going to ask a serious question. Is there a better solution on another platform? Does any other platform offer desktop, cloud, and mobile apps that sync images and edits between them?
Indeed he is a troll, of the old timer “Apple used to be better in my day!” sort. Ignoring that today’s Apple ships to far more customers and the devices are far more capable. These types are eager to hunt for any perceived indicators or slippage so they can validate that “things were better, then”. It’s a disorder of some sort.
Oh please, that's ridiculous. He didn't say anything about the good ol' days. In fact, I think this may be the first time I've seen cgWerks post anything remotely critical of Apple. If you paid attention you'd know that he just bought a loaded up Mac mini and a Blackmagic eGPU and has been sharing his experiences with them. If there's a disorder around here, it's one that causes the urge to pounce on anyone who doesn't fawn over everything Apple does.
So he doesn't like Apple's system for managing photos. So what? It's a matter of opinion; there's no right or wrong. His opinion is based on HIS needs and preferences, not yours. Instead of compulsively bullying anyone who doesn't share your views, why don't you try offering solutions to their objections? Or even just do what 99% of forum participants do, which is just accept that we don't all like the same things?
Then why when I opened my new XR was my wife's cloud, iTunes, maps, Paypal account etc and who knows what else all over my phone ? It even says "Hi Barbara Lawler" Is that supposed to be Smart. It's OK now; but if I was in a bad relationship ?????????????????????
Are you fucking serious? Are you paid to astroturf? That didn’t happen, unless you signed her into all of those things. Period.
And now we know his wife’s name LoL... But Apple has a security problem!!
Jay_B_Terclinger said: Meanwhile Tim Cook fundraiser for the censorious far-Left SPLC and ADL, and gleefully accepts an award for participating with his fellow FAAGTYs in the simultaneous and complete deplatforming of social media critic (and long-time privacy advocate) Alex Jones ("oh, but Jones is mean!").
All while leaving anti-American, anti-Israel, Jew-and-Christian-baiting Louis Farrakhan free to incite millions on Apple's iTunes.
Yeah, that's the thing. If there were consistency in what these data-handling corporations decided to allow and ban, I could just decide what platform allowed the appropriate amount of 'grit' for my content or consumption tastes.
But, when I see some of the most vile stuff I've ever seen proudly presented and popularized, while crackdowns continue on people who haven't done much aside from being in political/religious/worldview disagreement with those in control of the censorship buttons at these companies, it's hard not to get cynical.
I think Apple is far better than alternatives. I'll give them credit for that, I guess (and use them partly for that reason). I'm just warning people that I don't think it is some kind of care ideal that Cook says it is.
StrangeDays said: What on earth are you imagining? Apple devices don’t discriminate against conservatives, that’s nutters. Alex Jones violated policy and was escorted off of a private app store, as is their right to do (the same right Jones cites in his own web forum policy).
Jones might have done so... don't know. Don't follow him. I've yet to see what he said (in the news reports about the incident) that break the ToS, or especially to the extreme level that zillions of other things do, which are allowed on the platform. But... Jones isn't the only one. Apps of people I know have been pulled from the App Store, which I know didn't break the ToS (unless you read them so loosely that like 1/2 the rest of the content would also be removed).
The devices don't discriminate, but the people on the 'ban' button certainly do.
StrangeDays said: Dearie, you try too hard. Really. There is no shameful Apple shortcoming in their sharing feature.. Rather, if you turn on the screensaver that says “use my unhidden photos from my iphone”, they show up. As requested.
In the old days, I used to do a good bit of Novell security setup on servers and such. Novell did it right... stuff was secure unless made available. Most security platforms, as well as feature sets in such apps take the opposite approach these days... stuff is shared unless made 'hidden' as you say. People make mistakes, so my point was that this kind of thing was bound to happen, should people actually use the sharing features.
My first comment about their photos sharing being lame.... was a bit disconnected, I suppose. It's lame more overall, not just in terms of this incident or sharing feature. I wish it were more usable, but it's not. I'm still looking for a good photo management system.
StrangeDays said: Indeed he is a troll, of the old timer “Apple used to be better in my day!” sort. Ignoring that today’s Apple ships to far more customers and the devices are far more capable. These types are eager to hunt for any perceived indicators or slippage so they can validate that “things were better, then”. It’s a disorder of some sort.
No, I'm actually eager for Apple to get back to their founder's principals. (ie: “If you keep your eye on the profit, you’re going to skimp on the product. But if you focus on making really great products, then the profits will follow.” - Steve Jobs)
For example, just the other day, a new 'smart cover' arrived for my iPad. I also owned the smart cover for my iPad 2 years ago. There's no comparison. The new version is cheapened up greatly (but, I think, still the same price). If this happened once, I'd say bummer, but OK. But, it keeps happening again and again with their products and services in too many ways. Many of the 'core' products are solid, but too many of the less-attention products or accessories/services are not up to old-time Apple standards.
I could care less that Apple ships to more people, as I'm not a shareholder. And, I'd sure hope the devices are more capable in 2018 than they were a couple decades ago. The real question is if they are more capable in terms of what was possible at the time, or in comparison to the competition at the time. In that regard - on the whole - either Apple has been slipping or the competition has been closing the gap (maybe some of both). Part of this, IMO, is due to the above focus on profit vs the product.
Call me a troll. I'll call you a fanboy. I'd like to think of myself more as someone who's been around and learned a few things, enough so to make some good observations.
StrangeDays said: Oh you mean th bullshit story that was made up without any evidence and denied by everyone involved, including the only named secure expert source?
Welcome to 2018.
One might wish this would destroy their credibility at least to the point their other work might also be questioned. But, I doubt it. Just like the rest of the MSM, the vast majority of people are simply clueless about how fake most of the news is. That post is probably just a reflection that not everyone closely follows the stories a few of us do, that debunk them. (Now, go thusly, and apply the same the the rest of the media!)
StrangeDays said: ... iCloud data handovers to the govt happen legally and involve cloud storage. ... That’s why the FBI wants a back door to iPhone.
Hold those two statements next to one another and ponder them for a while.
I love to hear how Apple is standing up to China and refusing to afford their government surreptitious access to Apple devices!
Yet another 1-post. Clearly something is going on here. Also, another complete dimwit who confuses cloud storage with local device.
Don't most apps sync their data to iCloud? You typically have to turn them off if you intend the data to stay local only (including backup!). And, to the point of the article, what did they say here that shouldn't be given protest? (Or, are you a moral relativist who believes whatever the law of a land is determines actual right and wrong?)
Wasn't someone pointing out forum rules earlier today?
No doubt... pot, meet kettle. LOL
lorin schultz said: Oh please, that's ridiculous. He didn't say anything about the good ol' days. In fact, I think this may be the first time I've seen cgWerks post anything remotely critical of Apple.
Thanks, though to be fair, I have been relatively critical of a lot of news-type stuff around Apple for the last decade (though, also praising what I think is good). The difference between StrangeDays reaction and many others, is engaging what I say vs name-calling, and ironically, being about as much of a jerk and crude in response, as what he/she is complaining about.
Don't agree with me? Fine. But it would be kind of nice if they didn't chase me around the forums w/ harsh language, rebuking me (and others) for not being enough of an Apple-fan.
(BTW, an app called Turbo Boost Switcher has, so far, solved my complaints about the i7 fan noise. I'm still working through issues w/ Bootcamp via the eGPU.io forums and BootCampDrivers.com, etc. The new mini is pretty darn awesome and the Blackmagic too... but, Apple could do better on the software side, especially w/ Bootcamp.)
A good start for the new year would be to take Zuckerberg, Sandburg, Bloomberg, Ginsberg, Silverstein, Shumer, Greenspan, Yellen, Paulson and all of the Cohens outside and put them against a wall. Guess what happens next to all of these traitors. They are a cancer because their ideologies teach them to disrespect us and that because of their perceived superiority they have a god given right to rule over us. And how they do it is of little consequence to them. The end justifies the means.
Given what is happening in France, and in a bit more underground way elsewhere (partly because the media isn't reporting on it)... I fear something like that might just happen in the not too distant future. I just hope there is a bit more civility involved than in the 18th century.
That is a brilliant ad, and a great play on the Vegas slogan. No doubt this is going to piss off a lot of people.
No, it's quite wrong actually.
There are many people that take photos while doing naughty things, only to have it pop up on the Apple TV screen saver at home a few seconds later.
Care to back that assertion up with some evidence? No, I thought not.
Which assertion do you dispute; that it happens or just that it happens to lots of people?
If the former, I'm your evidence. I had a picture on my camera roll that, while not naughty, was not something I wanted my grandson to see. Thanks to iCloud photo sharing, he did.
Don't get me wrong, I take complete responsibility for it happening. I could have prevented it by adjusting my settings. It's just one of those things you don't really think about until it happens.
I don't think that rises to the level of contradicting Apple's message though. The picture was only seen in my home by members of my family. It was not exposed to government surveillance or stolen by evil-doers. Any least I don't THINK it was!
It was a picture seen via an Apple product you configured to show those pics. Like handing an unlocked phone to someone and then expecting iOS to somehow know which content YOU deem sensitive. My Apple TV screen saver shows flyovers of various cities and nature scenes. You appparently explicitly told yours to show photos stored in iCloud. You told it it’s okay to show those! Your issue isn’t with privacy, it’s with access. You explicitly allowed access. How is Apple supposed to prevent that?
This is a winner for Apple...the first three companies to have a billion users were Google, Yahoo and Facebook (not sure if that's the correct order) and they all harvest data.
In fact, 90% of the data harvested has been harvested in the last 2 years.
I hope Apple can make all our devices anonymous to these unscrupulous companies.
Best.
You're honestly suggesting that Apple partners with unscrupulous companies, at least until it no longer benefits them? Wow....
Hmmmm...I guess I am. The world's not perfect. But I prefer Apple's approach over Facebook's.
Facebook and Google are a lot more insidious than you may think.
I remember Stevo saying Facebook's conditions were "onerous."
Pretty strong word, don't you think?
Best.
In an ideal world, I'd like Apple to put out a beta Instagram/facebook-like service (Social), buy Duck, Duck Go (Search), and buy Sprint (Mobile USA), a beta YouTube-type (video)...and just make them better as time goes by as only Apple can do!
Don’t worry, GG is just deliberately not bringing up the fact that Cook explicitly addressed the question about partnering with Google; Apple products provide means to limit the data Google and others get and track. He just didn’t want the facts to get in the way of a good narrative.
Stupid slogan. iPhone is a media device that sends and receives. What is on an iPhone doesn't stay on the iPhone if you text, use twitter, facebook, search google, send emails, etc....
Those things are not ‘in’ the phone. When you tweet you may be using an iPhone to do so, but your interacting with, and posting to, an online service. It’s disingenuous to suggest that Apple allowing you to post publicly via an iPhone is evidence the iPhone is not protecting your privacy. Same with all your other examples. Except email, in which case your emails may be stored on the iPhone and in that case Apple is protecting you from having those local copies searched or inspected by third parties.
radarthekat said: It was a picture seen via an Apple product you configured to show those pics. Like handing an unlocked phone to someone and then expecting iOS to somehow know which content YOU deem sensitive. My Apple TV screen saver shows flyovers of various cities and nature scenes. You appparently explicitly told yours to show photos stored in iCloud. You told it it’s okay to show those! Your issue isn’t with privacy, it’s with access. You explicitly allowed access. How is Apple supposed to prevent that?
I guess my gripe would be more about how. From my understanding, when you start using it, it syncs everything... allowing you to pick (and be careful about) what you exclude. (As opposed to only sharing what you pick to share.)
It also (more why I'm not using it), fills your devices with full-res versions of the whole library, and only reverts to thumb-nail/info versions when your devices get too full. (As opposed to allowing you to control what gets downloaded, with the default being thumbnails/info versions). It's backwards.
radarthekat said: Don’t worry, GG is just deliberately not bringing up the fact that Cook explicitly addressed the question about partnering with Google; Apple products provide means to limit the data Google and others get and track. He just didn’t want the facts to get in the way of a good narrative.
Yeah, and that's good. But, what I think might not understand is how much Google/Facebag, etc. can do with a very little amount of information when it gets combined with all the other info they have, pouring in from every sort of source you might not even imagine is pouring in and being combined/analyzed.
And, that gets back to valid criticism of that billboard. Like a lot of advertising, it's kind of a half-truth or exaggerated. So, more like.... 'What happens on your iPhone stays more only on your iPhone than if you were using our competitors products. But, still a bunch of it, not so much.'
Apple handed over the administration of their Chinese iCloud server to the proudly-communist Chinese government. "Don't worry" they chirped to hundreds of millions of heavily surveilled Chinese, "you can trust us when we say 'your insanely oppressive, tyrannical government doesn't have the keys!"'
Meanwhile Tim Cook fundraiser for the censorious far-Left SPLC and ADL, and gleefully accepts an award for participating with his fellow FAAGTYs in the simultaneous and complete deplatforming of social media critic (and long-time privacy advocate) Alex Jones ("oh, but Jones is mean!").
All while leaving anti-American, anti-Israel, Jew-and-Christian-baiting Louis Farrakhan free to incite millions on Apple's iTunes.
How can anyone committed to freedom take seriously any claims Tim Cook makes about iPhone users' privacy?
It’s like Jordan Peterson says, you can tell the difference between a person who actually thinks and a person who parrots ideology by asking yourself, is this something I could hear from anyone? If so, it’s just parroting ideology. People who actually take time to think and understand have a more nuanced and unique view.
Apple is neither in control of the country of China (the Chinese government and its people own that privilege) nor should Apple simply take its ball and go home. Any business should do what’s in its power to advance its principals, and seek to engage, not simply boycott, when it can’t achieve 100% of its goals in any one area. This is what Apple is doing in China, in the US, etc.
The potential for the Chinese government certainly exists to misuse the data it has legal right to access, but that doesn’t put the onus on Apple to be the one to take the hit for all businesses attempting to do business in China. Should a manufacturer of climbing rope pull out of the Chinese market simply because its product could be used by the Chinese government to hang a dissident?
radarthekat said: Those things are not ‘in’ the phone. When you tweet you may be using an iPhone to do so, but your interacting with, and posting to, an online service. It’s disingenuous to suggest that Apple allowing you to post publicly via an iPhone is evidence the iPhone is not protecting your privacy. Same with all your other examples. Except email, in which case your emails may be stored on the iPhone and in that case Apple is protecting you from having those local copies searched or inspected by third parties.
Yes, but that line gets fuzzy quickly. As I think I noted earlier, say you go to the App Store and install Kayak. If you don't fully understand the zillion-page ToS and start using it, they will be sending your data to FB (on the device Apple is telling you in overly simplistic terms that what happens on the device stays on the device). You and I understand the distinction (even if we might not realize what apps are doing so and which aren't), but the average person doesn't.
It isn't quite as cut and dry as the data on your phone vs what you purposely decide to share.
radarthekat said: It’s like Jordan Peterson says, you can tell the difference between a person who actually thinks and a person who parrots ideology by asking yourself, is this something I could hear from anyone? If so, it’s just parroting ideology. People who actually take time to think and understand have a more nuanced and unique view.
Apple is neither in control of the country of China (the Chinese government and its people own that privilege) nor should Apple simply take its ball and go home. Any business should do what’s in its power to advance its principals, and seek to engage, not simply boycott, when it can’t achieve 100% of its goals in any one area. This is what Apple is doing in China, in the US, etc.
The potential for the Chinese government certainly exists to misuse the data it has legal right to access, but that doesn’t put the onus on Apple to be the one to take the hit for all businesses attempting to do business in China. Should a manufacturer of climbing rope pull out of the Chinese market simply because its product could be used by the Chinese government to hang a dissident?
Oh my... aside from the fact the Peterson would likely agree with some of that post.
The problem is more in terms of Apple acting like this privacy thing is some kind of fundamental human right, and then going, 'oh well, except for in China.' If it really were a core value of Apple, they would refuse to participate in that regard in China and take the consequences (the possibility of no sales).
Your analogy doesn't work. We're not talking about China misusing some device or technology Apple makes. We're talking about Apple making a device differently for the Chinese market specifically to enable the Chinese government to subvert the privacy of their citizens.
It would be more like if in the USA, Apple made rope, but publicly decried any use of it to hang someone, while making noose version of the rope for the Chinese gov't.
That is a brilliant ad, and a great play on the Vegas slogan. No doubt this is going to piss off a lot of people.
No, it's quite wrong actually.
There are many people that take photos while doing naughty things, only to have it pop up on the Apple TV screen saver at home a few seconds later.
Care to back that assertion up with some evidence? No, I thought not.
Which assertion do you dispute; that it happens or just that it happens to lots of people?
If the former, I'm your evidence. I had a picture on my camera roll that, while not naughty, was not something I wanted my grandson to see. Thanks to iCloud photo sharing, he did.
Don't get me wrong, I take complete responsibility for it happening. I could have prevented it by adjusting my settings. It's just one of those things you don't really think about until it happens.
I don't think that rises to the level of contradicting Apple's message though. The picture was only seen in my home by members of my family. It was not exposed to government surveillance or stolen by evil-doers. Any least I don't THINK it was!
It was a picture seen via an Apple product you configured to show those pics. Like handing an unlocked phone to someone and then expecting iOS to somehow know which content YOU deem sensitive. My Apple TV screen saver shows flyovers of various cities and nature scenes. You appparently explicitly told yours to show photos stored in iCloud. You told it it’s okay to show those! Your issue isn’t with privacy, it’s with access. You explicitly allowed access. How is Apple supposed to prevent that?
Did you even read what i wrote, or were you so anxious to illustrates Apple's innocence that you didn't bother to digest what you were responding to?
I addressed a specific point: hex clock asked for evidence that a picture can be exposed unintentionally. I presented my own case as evidence that it happens.
I *also* said that's on ME, not Apple.
Seriously, with due respect, you've been awfully quick to jump on others here while apparently making very little effort to even understand what's being said. Maybe you should go outside for a while.
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Another fucking lunatic.
Wasn't someone pointing out forum rules earlier today?
So he doesn't like Apple's system for managing photos. So what? It's a matter of opinion; there's no right or wrong. His opinion is based on HIS needs and preferences, not yours. Instead of compulsively bullying anyone who doesn't share your views, why don't you try offering solutions to their objections? Or even just do what 99% of forum participants do, which is just accept that we don't all like the same things?
But, when I see some of the most vile stuff I've ever seen proudly presented and popularized, while crackdowns continue on people who haven't done much aside from being in political/religious/worldview disagreement with those in control of the censorship buttons at these companies, it's hard not to get cynical.
I think Apple is far better than alternatives. I'll give them credit for that, I guess (and use them partly for that reason). I'm just warning people that I don't think it is some kind of care ideal that Cook says it is.
Jones might have done so... don't know. Don't follow him. I've yet to see what he said (in the news reports about the incident) that break the ToS, or especially to the extreme level that zillions of other things do, which are allowed on the platform. But... Jones isn't the only one. Apps of people I know have been pulled from the App Store, which I know didn't break the ToS (unless you read them so loosely that like 1/2 the rest of the content would also be removed).
The devices don't discriminate, but the people on the 'ban' button certainly do.
In the old days, I used to do a good bit of Novell security setup on servers and such. Novell did it right... stuff was secure unless made available. Most security platforms, as well as feature sets in such apps take the opposite approach these days... stuff is shared unless made 'hidden' as you say. People make mistakes, so my point was that this kind of thing was bound to happen, should people actually use the sharing features.
My first comment about their photos sharing being lame.... was a bit disconnected, I suppose. It's lame more overall, not just in terms of this incident or sharing feature. I wish it were more usable, but it's not. I'm still looking for a good photo management system.
No, I'm actually eager for Apple to get back to their founder's principals. (ie: “If you keep your eye on the profit, you’re going to skimp on the product. But if you focus on making really great products, then the profits will follow.” - Steve Jobs)
For example, just the other day, a new 'smart cover' arrived for my iPad. I also owned the smart cover for my iPad 2 years ago. There's no comparison. The new version is cheapened up greatly (but, I think, still the same price). If this happened once, I'd say bummer, but OK. But, it keeps happening again and again with their products and services in too many ways. Many of the 'core' products are solid, but too many of the less-attention products or accessories/services are not up to old-time Apple standards.
I could care less that Apple ships to more people, as I'm not a shareholder. And, I'd sure hope the devices are more capable in 2018 than they were a couple decades ago. The real question is if they are more capable in terms of what was possible at the time, or in comparison to the competition at the time. In that regard - on the whole - either Apple has been slipping or the competition has been closing the gap (maybe some of both). Part of this, IMO, is due to the above focus on profit vs the product.
Call me a troll. I'll call you a fanboy. I'd like to think of myself more as someone who's been around and learned a few things, enough so to make some good observations.
One might wish this would destroy their credibility at least to the point their other work might also be questioned. But, I doubt it. Just like the rest of the MSM, the vast majority of people are simply clueless about how fake most of the news is. That post is probably just a reflection that not everyone closely follows the stories a few of us do, that debunk them. (Now, go thusly, and apply the same the the rest of the media!)
Hold those two statements next to one another and ponder them for a while.
Don't most apps sync their data to iCloud? You typically have to turn them off if you intend the data to stay local only (including backup!).
And, to the point of the article, what did they say here that shouldn't be given protest? (Or, are you a moral relativist who believes whatever the law of a land is determines actual right and wrong?)
No doubt... pot, meet kettle. LOL
Thanks, though to be fair, I have been relatively critical of a lot of news-type stuff around Apple for the last decade (though, also praising what I think is good). The difference between StrangeDays reaction and many others, is engaging what I say vs name-calling, and ironically, being about as much of a jerk and crude in response, as what he/she is complaining about.
Don't agree with me? Fine. But it would be kind of nice if they didn't chase me around the forums w/ harsh language, rebuking me (and others) for not being enough of an Apple-fan.
(BTW, an app called Turbo Boost Switcher has, so far, solved my complaints about the i7 fan noise. I'm still working through issues w/ Bootcamp via the eGPU.io forums and BootCampDrivers.com, etc. The new mini is pretty darn awesome and the Blackmagic too... but, Apple could do better on the software side, especially w/ Bootcamp.)
Given what is happening in France, and in a bit more underground way elsewhere (partly because the media isn't reporting on it)... I fear something like that might just happen in the not too distant future. I just hope there is a bit more civility involved than in the 18th century.
Don’t worry, GG is just deliberately not bringing up the fact that Cook explicitly addressed the question about partnering with Google; Apple products provide means to limit the data Google and others get and track. He just didn’t want the facts to get in the way of a good narrative.
It also (more why I'm not using it), fills your devices with full-res versions of the whole library, and only reverts to thumb-nail/info versions when your devices get too full. (As opposed to allowing you to control what gets downloaded, with the default being thumbnails/info versions). It's backwards.
Yeah, and that's good. But, what I think might not understand is how much Google/Facebag, etc. can do with a very little amount of information when it gets combined with all the other info they have, pouring in from every sort of source you might not even imagine is pouring in and being combined/analyzed.
And, that gets back to valid criticism of that billboard. Like a lot of advertising, it's kind of a half-truth or exaggerated.
So, more like.... 'What happens on your iPhone stays more only on your iPhone than if you were using our competitors products. But, still a bunch of it, not so much.'
Apple is neither in control of the country of China (the Chinese government and its people own that privilege) nor should Apple simply take its ball and go home. Any business should do what’s in its power to advance its principals, and seek to engage, not simply boycott, when it can’t achieve 100% of its goals in any one area. This is what Apple is doing in China, in the US, etc.
The potential for the Chinese government certainly exists to misuse the data it has legal right to access, but that doesn’t put the onus on Apple to be the one to take the hit for all businesses attempting to do business in China. Should a manufacturer of climbing rope pull out of the Chinese market simply because its product could be used by the Chinese government to hang a dissident?
It isn't quite as cut and dry as the data on your phone vs what you purposely decide to share.
Oh my... aside from the fact the Peterson would likely agree with some of that post.
The problem is more in terms of Apple acting like this privacy thing is some kind of fundamental human right, and then going, 'oh well, except for in China.' If it really were a core value of Apple, they would refuse to participate in that regard in China and take the consequences (the possibility of no sales).
Your analogy doesn't work. We're not talking about China misusing some device or technology Apple makes. We're talking about Apple making a device differently for the Chinese market specifically to enable the Chinese government to subvert the privacy of their citizens.
It would be more like if in the USA, Apple made rope, but publicly decried any use of it to hang someone, while making noose version of the rope for the Chinese gov't.
I addressed a specific point: hex clock asked for evidence that a picture can be exposed unintentionally. I presented my own case as evidence that it happens.
I *also* said that's on ME, not Apple.
Seriously, with due respect, you've been awfully quick to jump on others here while apparently making very little effort to even understand what's being said. Maybe you should go outside for a while.