The TextBlade keyboard is superb, but you'll have to be patient

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  • Reply 781 of 1615
    alexonlinealexonline Posts: 241member
    Darth ruled the galaxy with an iron first for 20 years, but eventually, he softened and allowed Luke to bring out the good in him, although it took a near death experience for Luke at the Emperor's hands for Vader to wake up. 

    It has only been 4+ years for Wayder. I hope it does not take another 16 years and a near death experience for Waytools and TextBlade for Mark to wake up. 

    He has a chance to wake up NOW. AMA today. Truth, honesty, honour NOW, not tomorrow. 

    Mark, will you take this opportunity NOW, or will Type Wars extend into yet another unnecessary trilogy?

    A long time ago in an Internet era far, far away, TextBlade was born. 

    Sadly, TextBlade is stuck in the Matrix.

    Mark, Typeus is giving you a choice.

    You take the blue pill—the story ends, you wake up in your bed and type whatever you want to type.

    You take the red pill—you stay in TextBladeland, and we show you how deeply redemption and being made whole goes.

    Remember: all I'm typing is the truth. Nothing more.
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  • Reply 782 of 1615
    arkorottarkorott Posts: 100member
    alexonline said:
    Arkorott - many thanks for your kind words. The ideas generally are spontaneous, they pop into my mind, but then I do need to write what I’ve thought, and refine and edit it. 

    Keep them coming. They are fun to read. 

    I used to watch the cool progress update which was very detailed in my order page, looking forward to delivery just weeks away. I never imagined I would voluntarily cancel after two years, nor that in 2019, we’d all still be waiting. 

    Me too. I would never have believed I would be part of this saga for so long: I ordered so long ago, then like 6 months later cancelled afraid with all the delays, then re-ordered late 2016 as it seemed (to me) that GR was imminent, and from then have been checking the forums every day. (BTW, last few months activity at WTF seems to be low. Maybe because of lack of new info / updates or have most non-treggers been banned already?).

    Arkorott, your advice is great, and from the heart - it is genuine! 
    I’ve seen variations of it before given to Mark, but it seems to go in one ear and out the other. 

    We can only hope. It would be so much easier and fun to exchange info and have Q&As on product & project without the attitude. Customers should not need to tiptoe around the CEO temper. 

    Common sense dictates that the longer the delay, the more they should want to communicate, not the other way around. When ANY company fails to communicate on topic and / or starts to communicate less and less warning lights come up and people get concerned. It is only normal.

    I find really strange the amount of effort WT puts into attack / discredit the posters, conspiracy stuff,  or defend itself vs. talking about the TB & project. Which is the whole point of them having a review in a publication such as AI to begin with. Why not stay on topic ? Can't understand how people that smart can do this. If I were them I would count the amount of words they posted talking about the TB (on topic) vs everything else they wrote about and reflect on that. On a bigger company like Apple or Tesla if you are not Steve Jobs, Tim Cook or Elon Musk you would get your ass fired on the spot.

    What we all just want is a small multitouch keyboard with long battery life and extreme portability as promised. 

    Very true. I hope that after all the hype buildup it will meet expectations whenever the stars align and we have GR. 

    Hopefully before the next ice age. Ha. (It's a - bad - joke. Just sayin')

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  • Reply 783 of 1615
    Alex - we’ll let your post 780 above speak for itself as to sincerity.

    ————-

    From TBD, a bit more twisted logic squeezed in there -

    ”Force-refunding” one person is bad, but force-refunding every person is good.  ???

    Each of us decides whatever we want, and controls it with a click. whenever we want.  

    If a guy says having a preorder hurts him, then you refund his preorder. Pretty simple.

    Conversely, those who help TextBlade arrive faster, deserve superior benefits.  

    That’s fair to both. 


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  • Reply 784 of 1615
    dabigkahunadabigkahuna Posts: 465member
    Another item from the WT forums:

    new infrastructure will let us do sticky modkey shifts. 
    This is another reason we’re making it.
    We already support sticky keys on shift and function layers.
    We can extend that functionality to many other functions with the expanded data structures that have greater attribute depth.

    Don't know at what point we'll see it added, but this will be handy for a number of people - especially coders, I suspect. It's another of those areas where it matters because of the specific design of the keyboard with only 8 keycaps.

    For example, when I first got the TB and didn't realize I could do a sticky shift, there was a real problem for me if I wanted an uppercase "A". This was because I never use the right shift key. But you can't hold down the left shift key and the "A" character since they are on the same keycap. But with the sticky shift ability, I could tap left shift and release, then tap "A", just fine.

    Being able to do that with other modifiers will be similarly useful. After we get the tech update, Treg testing of the new fork, and they are about to hit GR, maybe we'll get some info on when or what priority some of these additional capabilities will be coming.

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  • Reply 785 of 1615
    discokvndiscokvn Posts: 7member
    A splendid Saturday night to you as well.  More examples of craft above.  A word count shows who’s wasting time here.
    i'm not sure how to respond, i ask you if i'm understanding you correctly, your response is accuse me of "craft" and tell me i'm wasting your time?
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  • Reply 786 of 1615
    alexonlinealexonline Posts: 241member
    Alex - we’ll let your post 780 above speak for itself as to sincerity.

    Well, I wrote it sincerely. 

    Are you saying I am being sincere or insincere - please, no riddles, tell me plainly. Plain speaking is an art, using grand words can sometimes be a way to obfuscate. 

    No-one ever complained about easy to understand communications, that’s for sure. 

    As for “force refunding everyone”, well, what stops you from asking your customers if they’d like their money back until completion?

    You could say people would ask if that’s what they wanted, TBD is suggesting an alternative. You might find the vast majority of your existing customers say no, keep the money until complete. 

    Anyway it’s up to you, we out here cannot force you to do anything  
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  • Reply 787 of 1615
    The Devil in the Details 


    One small subtlety, that reveals a lot - re - Alex’s prayer verse.

    The archetype is -


    “Forgive us our trespasses,

    as we forgive those who trespass against us.”


    That essential meaning is a two-way street.  It’s reciprocal.

    It humbly acknowledges self-responsibility.  Alex surely knows this.

    But here, the revisionist version is rewritten to be entirely one-way -


    “Forgive WayTools their trespasses.

    as we forgive WayTools their trespasses against us.”


    The revised notion is that the whole universe of sin is exogenous.

    It’s a marked divergence from the scrupulous parallelism in the rest of his parody.  It sounds passable, but it totally flips the meaning.


    This revision disclaims all self-responsibility.  The fractured prayer acknowledges nothing reciprocal at all, and heaps all sin on the other character in the moral play.


    It’s subtle, but its a great forensic trail of the extent of skillful twisting of words to upend their meaning.

    It reveals the worldview of the writer, and in his mind, what is morally tolerable in this craft.

    Even the Lord’s Prayer is fair game for perversion to denigrate the target of a campaign.

    If smart enough to do this, then smart enough to know why it’s intellectually dishonest.

    Basically, it’s the street sophistry of -

    “Heads I win, tails you lose.”


    The thing is, Truth is very simple.  No sleight of hand is necessary.

    To use one’s talents to confuse for an intentional injustice, does not elevate them.

    If you count the words, a lot of resource and intellectual energy is being put toward weaving a disparaging narrative. 

    It is a lot of work, especially for someone who’s not even a customer.


    The award one might win for this kind of writing is not the sort of superlative you’d want.





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  • Reply 788 of 1615

    ”Force-refunding” one person is bad, but force-refunding every person is good.  ???
    Are you stupid, or just playing stupid? You know perfectly well what I have been saying from the start.  Give people their money back until your product is ready to ship. Whether you maintain your original order queue or not is your prerogative. 

    You are such a low life the way you twist things around Mark. This is exactly what I meant by unethical, unprofessional, and criminally minded. Thank you for providing another example to everyone.


    Each of us decides whatever we want, and controls it with a click. whenever we want.  
    If a guy says having a preorder hurts him, then you refund his preorder. Pretty simple.
    Its not a fair deal and you know it. You did not tell people up front that they would be waiting longer than 4 years for their merchandise. You lied to people. You upped the ante with promises of 'gifts' never delivered. You are lying to people when you suggest its a fair deal without providing the context that you tricked customers into waiting for years by repeatedly telling them the lie that delivery was imminent.


    Conversely, those who help TextBlade arrive faster, deserve superior benefits.  
    That’s fair to both. 
    There is nothing fair about keeping people on a perpetually false schedule. The AI article quotes you as saying '[the] money from these orders is not what's funding the company.'  If that is true, then how is anybody 'helping' by letting you keep their money? Stop lying. Get your story straight.

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  • Reply 789 of 1615

    This revision disclaims all self-responsibility.  The fractured prayer acknowledges nothing reciprocal at all, and heaps all sin on the other character in the moral play.
    You are so unbelievably full of crap. You took everybodys money and never gave them any product in exchange! You have lied to people for 4 years to string them along. There is no sin here but yours! The absurdity of you preaching to customers about their transgressions - your behavior is beyond the pale.
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  • Reply 790 of 1615
    So please don’t buy it, and definitely don’t read what users say about it.
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  • Reply 791 of 1615
    alexonlinealexonline Posts: 241member
    The Devil in the Details 


    One small subtlety, that reveals a lot - re - Alex’s prayer verse.

    The archetype is -


    “Forgive us our trespasses,

    as we forgive those who trespass against us.”


    That essential meaning is a two-way street.  It’s reciprocal.

    It humbly acknowledges self-responsibility.  Alex surely knows this.

    But here, the revisionist version is rewritten to be entirely one-way -


    “Forgive WayTools their trespasses.

    as we forgive WayTools their trespasses against us.”


    The revised notion is that the whole universe of sin is exogenous.

    It’s a marked divergence from the scrupulous parallelism in the rest of his parody.  It sounds passable, but it totally flips the meaning.


    This revision disclaims all self-responsibility.  The fractured prayer acknowledges nothing reciprocal at all, and heaps all sin on the other character in the moral play.


    It’s subtle, but its a great forensic trail of the extent of skillful twisting of words to upend their meaning.

    It reveals the worldview of the writer, and in his mind, what is morally tolerable in this craft.

    Even the Lord’s Prayer is fair game for perversion to denigrate the target of a campaign.

    If smart enough to do this, then smart enough to know why it’s intellectually dishonest.

    Basically, it’s the street sophistry of -

    “Heads I win, tails you lose.”


    The thing is, Truth is very simple.  No sleight of hand is necessary.

    To use one’s talents to confuse for an intentional injustice, does not elevate them.

    If you count the words, a lot of resource and intellectual energy is being put toward weaving a disparaging narrative. 

    It is a lot of work, especially for someone who’s not even a customer.


    The award one might win for this kind of writing is not the sort of superlative you’d want.





    You are a bad faith actor, Mark. You win the award for insincerity. It’s sad that you choose the dishonourable path yet again, despite being given yet another chance for redemption. 

    I wrote the Lord’s Prayer with you at fault because YOU have been the ones who let us down! We did not let you down!

    The fact you think this makes me the “bad person” is unbelievable, Mark. Get off your high horse, you do not deserve to get up there until you ship! You really have some nerve, it’s astonishing. 

    “Disclaims all self-responsibility”... what responsibility do I have in your inability to ship! I am responsible in some way because I cancelled on you?

    Readers, you can see the logic of Mark Knighton at work. Twisted and dark side of the force touch keyboard stuff. Truly revealing!

    You took the blue pill. It’s sad. My final post will be a rewrite of Michael Jackson’s Bad, it is you, M K. 
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  • Reply 792 of 1615
    alexonlinealexonline Posts: 241member
    Arguing with Mark Knighton is a waste of time. As for your "isn't even a customer BS" - yes, I cancelled. I was happy to buy again, but we'll have to see if you SHIP FIRST. Good luck with that. Your insincerity is on display for ALL to see, and your endless rationalisations are a colossal waste of time. Get back to work! It's sad to see you are a bad person. Very sad. 

    Blade: By Typeal Knightson

    Your Blade is Mark's
    He does wanna fight
    Will he show his Blade
    In board daylight?
    He's telling us
    On how he feels
    We're just in a bind
    Don't type to kill
    Come on

    Come on
    Type it on me
    All right

    We're giving you
    On count of three
    To show your Blade
    Or let it be
    We're telling you
    Just watch your mouth
    We know your game
    What you're about

    Well they say GR's the limit
    And I wish it just weren't true
    But my friend you ain't typed nothin'
    You've made a big boo boo

    Because you're bad, you're bad come on
    You know you're bad, you're bad come on, you know
    We ask where's blade, where's blade come on, you know
    And the whole world has to
    Answer right now
    Just to ask you once again
    Where's blade

    The word is out
    You're doin' wrong
    Gonna lock you up
    Before too long
    Your lyin' eyes
    Gonna tell you right
    So listen up
    Don't make a fight
    Your talk is cheap
    You're not a man
    You're throwin' blades
    To hide your hands

    But they say the sky's the limit
    And I wish it just weren't true
    But my friend you ain't typed nothin'
    You've made a big boo boo

    Because you're bad, you're bad come on
    You know you're bad, you're bad come on, you know
    We ask where's blade, where's blade come on, you know
    And the whole world has to
    Answer right now
    Just to ask you once again
    Where's blade

    Mark could change the world tomorrow
    This could be a better place
    If you don't like what he's sayin'
    Then won't you slap his face

    Because he's bad, he's bad come on
    You know he's bad, he's bad come on, you know
    We ask where's blade, where's blade come on, you know
    And the whole world has to
    Answer right now
    Just to ask you once again
    Where's blade

    Because he's bad, he's bad come on
    You know he's bad, he's bad come on, you know
    We ask where's blade, where's blade come on, you know
    And the whole world has to
    Answer right now
    Just to ask you once again
    Where's blade

    Where's blade?

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  • Reply 793 of 1615
    So please don’t buy it, and definitely don’t read what users say about it.
    There are no users. There are only testers who paid for a device and received unfinished prototypes, and are incentivized not to publicly criticize the device lest you remotely disable it or demand it be returned, thus relegating them into the much larger group of customers who have no first hand evidence that the device exists or works well at all.

    The journalist who wrote this article thinks the device is good, but received a keyboard in exchange for the review and did not dig deeply into the serious issues exposed in these comments, so I am a bit skeptical of the objectivity. In any case, it does not matter. No one who paid for the product possesses a final version of it.
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  • Reply 794 of 1615
    https://forum.waytools.com/c/Reviews

    Blimey!  Of course it doesn’t exist.  In the alternate reality you laboriously craft, up is down, and right is wrong.  And all those customer reports are imaginary.

    Let us know the order name behind your pseudonym, and we’ll take care of your refund swiftly.


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  • Reply 795 of 1615
    Alex - that latest one is definitely Weird-Al Yankovic grade material.  There’s good work in that piece.

    Would be delightful if you were on a different mission.


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  • Reply 796 of 1615
    alexonlinealexonline Posts: 241member

    Would be delightful if you were on a different mission.


    The only possible response to your absurd accusation that I am on some mission to destroy you is simple:

    Would be delightful if YOU were on a different mission, instead of the mission of self righteous self-sabotage you’re on now.

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  • Reply 797 of 1615
    dabigkahunadabigkahuna Posts: 465member
    > Give people their money back until your product is ready to ship. Whether you maintain your original order queue or not is your prerogative. 

    For those of us who missed it, in the past there have been complaints about refunds because of the changing monetary rates. So, it was argued, one of the reason to oppose the refunds was because it could actually result in a return of less value that it was when ordered. But now doing that to everyone is fine???

    >
    You did not tell people up front that they would be waiting longer than 4 years for their merchandise.

    News flash: WayTools fails to predict the future!

    You upped the ante with promises of 'gifts' never delivered.

    And they haven't sent the gifts which would come with GR before GR has happened!

    The AI article quotes you as saying '[the] money from these orders is not what's funding the company.'  If that is true, then how is anybody 'helping' by letting you keep their money?

    If you think about it you can probably come up with a logical reason. But somehow I don't think you will.

    There are no users. There are only testers

    Dang, and all this time I thought I was using it!

     are incentivized not to publicly criticize the device lest you remotely disable it or demand it be returned

    Well, we sure have seen this before - take the people who actually know more about it than you because, you know, they actually USE it (hard to test without doing so), and then claim they are afraid to criticize it because, gee, they don't agree with your opinions.

    The journalist who wrote this article thinks the device is good, but received a keyboard in exchange for the review and did not dig deeply into the serious issues exposed in these comments, so I am a bit skeptical of the objectivity.

    And you do the same to the journalist by insinuating he said good things to get a device. And I'm shocked, shocked I tell you, to hear someone say he didn't did deeply into issues in the comment section - WHICH WEREN'T WRITTEN UNTIL AFTER HIS ARTICLE. It's that time travel thing. But, for the record, he did clearly talk about the long delays.

    I take the criticisms of some here seriously. But not yours, because you fail to stick to sensible complaints.



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  • Reply 798 of 1615
    sirasira Posts: 4member
    I love Texblade's concept. and so expectations it.
    4year's wait it. Still my feelings have not changed. and I still want it.
    but...
    My Textblade is still not shipments.
    it's writed comments as Fact-based complaints and questions.

    Waytools_Support. 
    You were advised not to answer my question but to cancel.

    It's awkward and I don't want canceled.

    Canceling order is settlement 4 years ago. It well result in card's settlement fees and exchange losses. Will you guarantee the loss by forced cancellation?
    My order was sent as from to Japan at 6 Packs.
    It is calculated at around 121-123 yen/$ with exchange fee 1.6% at exchange rate of 118-120 yen/$ over at that time.
    If it is calculated at around 106-108 yen with a fee calculation of 1.6% at around the current exchange rate of 108-110 yen/$, you will receive a loss equivalent to $ 62 to $ 64 in real dollar conversion. And it means The for 4 years time of expectations was betraying.
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  • Reply 799 of 1615
    Alex - you’re creative, and clearly smart enough to understand what you did.  It doesn’t improve things to compound it by feigning ignorance.

    Self-responsibility by definition, means each party takes responsibility for their own actions.  

    We own our record for taking longer to make something unique, yet clearly not quitting in the face of challenges.  The bad and the good, we own all of it.

    Anyone who thought we weren’t worthy could bail whenever they pleased. 

    The thing you did, was different.  As an observer, rather than participant, you used your talent to create a false narrative around our effort, and our character. And you did it while we labored hard to endure and overcome the challenges.

    You wrote parodies, and lyrics, and prayers.  Clever stuff.  All of it camping on threads for a product you cancelled your order for, years ago. The fixation was notable.

    And all of it crafted with a consistent undertone to suggest we were not honorable. There was purpose to it.

    You didn’t simply slip in new characters for the Lord’s Prayer, you changed the very logic of its structure itself, it’s essential truth, and used the fracture to serve your purpose.

    After a long diatribe impugning our honor, you wanted us to just stomach your narrative without responding to its inherent conflicts.  You gave much didactic advice about morality, while you knowingly colored elements, taking license with morality.  And when challenged, you whimpered that we should get off our high horse.  But you cast those first stones, not us. 

    We didn’t initiate any of this dialogue, you did.  And you laid it on progressively thicker until we pointed out what was wrong with your claims.

    If we had no pride in our work, or care about fulfilling the highest expectations of our customers, we’d say nothing.  But precisely because the passion is there, we responded.

    The thing is good, and everyone knows it now.  When there’s attempts at interference with execution, we, and anyone serious about doing a good job, will act to defend their mission.  This is ordinary course for disruptive innovators, and we wish it weren’t part of the job, but it is.  

    Go in peace, and stop throwing stones.  We have no beef with you personally, only with dishing hurt upon others who work hard to make something good.  



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  • Reply 800 of 1615
    Sira- please email us and we will work with you to minimize exchange rate effects.  The dollar is strong now, so in theory, a dollar credit should be in your favor.  We can review together by email or phone.  Thanks 
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