Foldable iPhone loses notch & resembles iPhone 11 says prolific leaker [u]
New speculation about a foldable iPhone suggests that Apple has taken a different route that the Samsung Galaxy Fold, and uses design cues from the iPhone 11.
Microsoft Surface Duo, with hinge between two display panels
A new Twitter post by Jon Prosser weighs in on Apple's "foldable" iPhone. Instead of a screen that covers a hinge, Apple's current prototype allegedly has two display panels, more like the announced but not shipping Microsoft Surface Duo.
Apple avoiding a screen over a hinge avoids design issues that plagued Samsung's initial launch of the Galaxy Fold. It also sidesteps the potential issue of repeated opening and closing the device inducing fatigue failure of the screen material over the screen.
In a follow-on response, Prosser says that it doesn't look like two connected iPhones. He also says that when the device is open, it "looks fairly continuous and seamless."
Additionally, also like the Microsoft Surface Duo, Apple is said to not be using a notch. Instead, Face ID and other sensors are contained in a "tiny forehead" above the displays.
It isn't clear where Apple is in the design process, as it has a great deal of research on foldable technologies, and even rollable ones. A foldable iPhone of any variety has been rumored for some time, but isn't expected to ship in 2020.
Apple does have a body of work detailing how two or more devices can work and communicate when in close proximity.
Prosser has been reporting leaks on Apple products for most of 2020, and has a long and established track record when it comes to other vendors. As of late, he has predicted not just codenames, but detailed specs and release dates for unannounced Apple products with complete accuracy.
Update: In an interview with Jon Rettinger posted later on Monday, Prosser elaborated on the idea of a foldable iPhone with two displays, saying that the device is in prototype form. He also claims Apple is conducting an internal investigation to ferret out and plug the source of his leaks. The company has used similar strategies to keep a tight ship in the past.
Microsoft Surface Duo, with hinge between two display panels
A new Twitter post by Jon Prosser weighs in on Apple's "foldable" iPhone. Instead of a screen that covers a hinge, Apple's current prototype allegedly has two display panels, more like the announced but not shipping Microsoft Surface Duo.
Apple's "foldable" iPhone isn't really a foldable.
The current prototype has two separate display panels on a hinge.
Round, stainless steel edges like current iPhone 11 design.
No notch -- tiny forehead on outter display that houses Face ID.-- Jon Prosser (@jon_prosser)
Apple avoiding a screen over a hinge avoids design issues that plagued Samsung's initial launch of the Galaxy Fold. It also sidesteps the potential issue of repeated opening and closing the device inducing fatigue failure of the screen material over the screen.
In a follow-on response, Prosser says that it doesn't look like two connected iPhones. He also says that when the device is open, it "looks fairly continuous and seamless."
Additionally, also like the Microsoft Surface Duo, Apple is said to not be using a notch. Instead, Face ID and other sensors are contained in a "tiny forehead" above the displays.
It isn't clear where Apple is in the design process, as it has a great deal of research on foldable technologies, and even rollable ones. A foldable iPhone of any variety has been rumored for some time, but isn't expected to ship in 2020.
Apple does have a body of work detailing how two or more devices can work and communicate when in close proximity.
Prosser has been reporting leaks on Apple products for most of 2020, and has a long and established track record when it comes to other vendors. As of late, he has predicted not just codenames, but detailed specs and release dates for unannounced Apple products with complete accuracy.
Update: In an interview with Jon Rettinger posted later on Monday, Prosser elaborated on the idea of a foldable iPhone with two displays, saying that the device is in prototype form. He also claims Apple is conducting an internal investigation to ferret out and plug the source of his leaks. The company has used similar strategies to keep a tight ship in the past.
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The portrait foldables and 360° hinge foldables I could see it being ok for QWERTY input but that is done by turning it into a clunky regular nonfolding slab phone.
This is how Apple would do it.
"Richard Yu, head of Huawei's consumer business, said in an interview with Chinese media outlet The Paper on Thursday that his company has already lost between US$60 million and US$70 million on foldable phones.
Yuge sales...
NOTE: The Paper is the official newspaper of the CCP Central Committee. Talk about those close ties of Huawei to the CCP.
Still not ready for prime time, and less so, now that Huawei can't provide Google services.
I especially like this part;
"While 2019 proved a tough year for the company, Huawei’s annual report shows that it wasn’t all that bad: Huawei remained the second biggest smartphone brand in the world, shipping 240 million phones. About 44 million of those belong to its flagship Mate and P series."
Apple sells something on the order of 180 to 210 million iPhones a year, though 70 percent of those are typically the current years "flagship" models, so Apple is selling 3 times more flagship models than Huawei. That's likely the reason that Huawei's ASP's and margins are so much lower that Apple's.
...and this...
https://techcrunch.com/2020/05/23/uk-government-reverses-course-on-huaweis-involvement-in-5g-networks/
"Conservative members of the United Kingdom’s government have pushed Prime Minister Boris Johnson to draw up plans to remove telecom equipment made by the Chinese manufacturer Huawei from the nation’s 5G networks by 2023, according to multiple reports.
The decision by Johnson, who wanted Huawei’s market share in the nation’s telecommunications infrastructure capped at 35 percent, brings the UK back into alignment with the position Australia and the United States have taken on Huawei’s involvement in national communications networks, according to both The Guardian and The Telegraph.
The debate over Huawei’s role in international networking stems from the company’s close ties to the Chinese government and the attendant fears that relying on Huawei telecom equipment could expose the allied nations to potential cybersecurity threats and weaken national security."
2020 doesn't look that great for Huawei...
Yes, we all know that the Mate XS is being sold at a loss. That is very old news.
Why do you think that might be?
The rest is just your own personal flavour of anti Chinese rant.
That 2020 is going to be a hard year is also old news.
It's is also going to be hard on Huawei's traditional U.S suppliers. They have stated as much. And the U.S strategy, desperate as it clearly is, could backfire massively in a world which moves to shun its technology due to extraterritorial moves.
https://asiatimes.com/2020/06/how-huawei-can-work-around-us-chip-ban/
But in spite of everything, little surprises keep popping up.
https://www.gizmochina.com/2020/06/15/huawei-overtakes-samsung-worldsw-largest-smartphone-maker-april-2020/
But please don't derail this thread too.
I haven't heard any widespread complaints about Samsung or Huawei folding phones since they were properly released.
It is still too early to say how they will hold up to real world use in terms of durability but we are eight months in now and they are anything but not ready for prime time.
Quite the opposite in fact. For first and second generation phones, they have hit the ground running by all accounts.