And you'll still need to use a dongle for a wired connection to an iPhone because it doesn't have a 3.5mm jack, and there's no Lightning to Lightning cable available.
Lightning needs to go away already.
You're saying you would choose to double-adapt wireless headphones to your iPhone, rather than use them, you know, wirelessly? Okaaay.... Ima go out on a limb then and say these aren't for you, and that's OK.
There are those who claim a wireless connection can never be good enough. The same crowd thinks lossless is the only true religion even though they couldn’t hear the difference in an anechoic chamber if it came up and bit them.
Then you have yet to listen to the true lossless sound. Rather I would way, you never experienced listening to music in its all spectrum. As of this time, wireless can only deliver maybe 10% of what a truly capable audiophile wired IEM like IE 800 S or headphones like HD 820 can deliver. And anyone can hear the difference if try them out. Wireless has a long way to go. At this pace, I am projecting about 15+ years before I see something reasonably good wireless earphones.
I knew my response would bring one of you out of the woodwork. Did I trigger you? And I have indeed listened to the ultimate lossless sound there is. It’s called a live performance.
And you'll still need to use a dongle for a wired connection to an iPhone because it doesn't have a 3.5mm jack, and there's no Lightning to Lightning cable available.
Lightning needs to go away already.
You're saying you would choose to double-adapt wireless headphones to your iPhone, rather than use them, you know, wirelessly? Okaaay.... Ima go out on a limb then and say these aren't for you, and that's OK.
There are those who claim a wireless connection can never be good enough. The same crowd thinks lossless is the only true religion even though they couldn’t hear the difference in an anechoic chamber if it came up and bit them.
Then you have yet to listen to the true lossless sound. Rather I would way, you never experienced listening to music in its all spectrum. As of this time, wireless can only deliver maybe 10% of what a truly capable audiophile wired IEM like IE 800 S or headphones like HD 820 can deliver. And anyone can hear the difference if try them out. Wireless has a long way to go. At this pace, I am projecting about 15+ years before I see something reasonably good wireless earphones.
I knew my response would bring one of you out of the woodwork. Did I trigger you? And I have indeed listened to the ultimate lossless sound there is. It’s called a live performance.
Not too many of those right now...
Some people are happy with a $20 pair of ear buds. Some people are happy driving a 20 year old Ford Escort. Others want more quality. At over $500 the competition is stiff and people have every right to expect high quality and no compromises with these headphones.
Is it me or is Apple getting ridiculous with their prices?
At a minimum you have at least one other person that agrees with you.
And it's such a joy for the rest of us when you all come into the forums to express that same repeated and stale sentiment over and over. ;-)
Just like being back home at MacRumors 10 years ago, oh the nostalgia.
Companies need to be called out for their crap. This place does not need to be an echo chamber of Apple fanatics. No place should be. Like what there is to like, but take them to task when appropriate. This is an example of appropriate.
And you'll still need to use a dongle for a wired connection to an iPhone because it doesn't have a 3.5mm jack, and there's no Lightning to Lightning cable available.
Lightning needs to go away already.
You're saying you would choose to double-adapt wireless headphones to your iPhone, rather than use them, you know, wirelessly? Okaaay.... Ima go out on a limb then and say these aren't for you, and that's OK.
There are those who claim a wireless connection can never be good enough. The same crowd thinks lossless is the only true religion even though they couldn’t hear the difference in an anechoic chamber if it came up and bit them.
I can tell the difference unless I’m in the car. It’s not necessarily awful. It’s better than low quality MP3, and I also used MiniDisc for years prior to MP3 (a tossup between just as good as high quality MP3 and “less bright”).
When I’m in the car, though, the bigger problem is the pathetic connection itself, not streaming compression. Bluetooth has a habit of disconnecting, pitch shifting, and dropping data (skipping). Unreliable or impossible connections held true for AirPlay in the house between my iOS devices and TV.
Wireless sucks for more and worse reasons than sound quality, but I can still tell when compression is involved.
And you'll still need to use a dongle for a wired connection to an iPhone because it doesn't have a 3.5mm jack, and there's no Lightning to Lightning cable available.
Lightning needs to go away already.
You're saying you would choose to double-adapt wireless headphones to your iPhone, rather than use them, you know, wirelessly? Okaaay.... Ima go out on a limb then and say these aren't for you, and that's OK.
There are those who claim a wireless connection can never be good enough. The same crowd thinks lossless is the only true religion even though they couldn’t hear the difference in an anechoic chamber if it came up and bit them.
I can tell the difference unless I’m in the car. It’s not necessarily awful. It’s better than low quality MP3, and I also used MiniDisc for years prior to MP3 (a tossup between just as good as high quality MP3 and “less bright”).
When I’m in the car, though, the bigger problem is the pathetic connection itself, not streaming compression. Bluetooth has a habit of disconnecting, pitch shifting, and dropping data (skipping). Unreliable or impossible connections held true for AirPlay in the house between my iOS devices and TV.
Wireless sucks for more and worse reasons than sound quality, but I can still tell when compression is involved.
I also have issues with wireless headphones, including AirPods on train platforms. I assume it’s overhead wires messing with the signal. It’s another reason to prefer having a wired fallback.
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Some people are happy with a $20 pair of ear buds. Some people are happy driving a 20 year old Ford Escort. Others want more quality. At over $500 the competition is stiff and people have every right to expect high quality and no compromises with these headphones.
When I’m in the car, though, the bigger problem is the pathetic connection itself, not streaming compression. Bluetooth has a habit of disconnecting, pitch shifting, and dropping data (skipping). Unreliable or impossible connections held true for AirPlay in the house between my iOS devices and TV.
Wireless sucks for more and worse reasons than sound quality, but I can still tell when compression is involved.