Apple TV+ abandons Clooney and Pitt's 'Wolfs' sequel

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A planned sequel to the Apple TV+ original movie "Wolfs" has reportedly been dropped, marking another unexpected turn for both this film series, and for how it appears Apple is changing its movie ambitions.

Two men in leather jackets face each other with arms crossed, while a woman sits in the background. Room features a wall mural and warm lighting.
Brad Pitt, George Clooney in the film "Wolfs." Image credit: Columbia Pictures / Courtesy Everett Collection



Writer/director Jon Watts now says that he will not be doing a sequel, despite the first film's success. "[Apple] were extremely enthusiastic about it, and immediately commissioned me to start writing a sequel. But their last minute shift from a promised wide theatrical release to a streaming release was a total surprise and made without any explanation or discussion," he told industry publication Deadline.

"I was completely shocked and asked them to please not include the news that I was writing a sequel," Watts added. "They ignored my request and announced it in their press release anyway, seemingly to create a positive spin to their streaming pivot so I quietly returned the money they gave me for the sequel."

While never officially announced, the planned and reportedly greenlit "Wolfs 2" film was seen as a way to counter the poor publicity Apple had over its treatment of the original movie. Stars George Clooney and Brad Pitt both took substantial pay cuts in order to make sure this hitman action comedy got a wide theatrical release, which Apple initially planned.

However, shortly before release, Apple cut back its plans and instead gave it a single week in theaters. "Wolfs" would go on to be the most-watched Apple TV+ original film up to that point.

That streaming success could have made Apple reconsider its theatrical plans, especially for a sequel. However, Apple is said to have dramatically scaled back its slate following a series of high-cost flops, such as "Killers of the Flower Moon."

It's believed that Apple is waiting to see how its next major release, "F1" starring "Wolfs" co-lead Brad Pitt, fares in cinemas in summer 2025. Should that also fail to do well, Apple is expected to step away from high-budget fare and instead produce more films that are each lower cost.

The company may also choose to acquire finished movies instead of either producing itself, or being the sole investor in an independent production. Apple does already acquire films, with one of them being the acclaimed 2022 movie "CODA", which earned the first-ever Best Picture Oscar for a streamer.

"I loved working with Brad and George (and Amy and Austin and Poorna and Zlatko) and would happily do it again," said Watts, "but the truth is that Apple didn't cancel the Wolfs sequel, I did, because I no longer trusted them as a creative partner."

Deadline reports that sources within Apple continue to consider the film and success, and remain open to a sequel.



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  • Reply 1 of 22
    So, is someone going to write an explanation of the [future] plot?
    The cliffhanger at the end of episode 1 was truly annoying.

    I am not surprised. It was terrible. I gave it 1 star on rotten Tomatoes.
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  • Reply 2 of 22
    So, is someone going to write an explanation of the [future] plot?
    The cliffhanger at the end of episode 1 was truly annoying.

    I am not surprised. It was terrible. I gave it 1 star on rotten Tomatoes.
    The whole movie was annoying.
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  • Reply 3 of 22
    It's hard to find original stories in movies nowadays, they all mirror older movies one way or another. Severance and Ted Lasso were great, but the others like Mosquito Coast and Silo had bad acting and felt amateurish. Anyway I know it's all subjective I know.
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  • Reply 4 of 22
    It would be beneficial for Apple to either discontinue releasing content to theaters or permit simultaneous release on digital platforms. Why? Vision Pro users anticipate content in either 3D or immersive video formats. However, this is not currently the case, as Apple TV+ does not offer 3D content. This omission raises questions about Apple’s vision for Vision Pro.

    Is Apple abandoning its vision for Vision Pro? Apple’s services are not being enhanced by its future technology (VisionOS). Why is there no Vision Pro app for Apple News? Why are there fewer spatial or immersive games? As a consumer, I am perplexed by Apple’s objectives with VisionOS. Tim Cook appears to believe it is a niche for individuals seeking advanced technology today. However, the leadership’s strategy, messaging, and future direction lack clarity. It seems as though Vision Pro was a costly mistake for Apple. As a consumer, I envision Vision Pro as a tool that will enable me to contribute to society when my physical limitations confine me to bed.

    I yearn for the magic and excitement I experienced with Apple products. I anticipate the introduction of a comprehensive suite of features. It occurred to me that this is why Apple introduces AI features gradually. These are the only features they have developed thus far. 
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  • Reply 5 of 22
    Pemapema Posts: 209member
    Cancelled! The first one shouldn't have made it out the gate. Poor acting; poor script; poor cinematography. If It hadn't been for the two name actors it would have never made it to the highlights but been delegated to a daytime soap squashed between some lame talkshow and an afternoon gameshow.  >:)
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  • Reply 6 of 22
    omasouomasou Posts: 647member
    That movie was such a huge disappointment especially considering who the main character actors are.
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  • Reply 7 of 22
    Yeah the people have spoken -- did not like. It was waaay too cute, writer was much too impressed with himself. Was annoying. Ending sucked. 
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  • Reply 8 of 22
    It's hard to find original stories in movies nowadays, they all mirror older movies one way or another. Severance and Ted Lasso were great, but the others like Mosquito Coast and Silo had bad acting and felt amateurish. Anyway I know it's all subjective I know.
    I couldn't disagree more with your assertion that "Silo had bad acting and felt amateurish!".  I think the diametrically opposite viewpoint is true, viz that it has some great acting and feels very polished and professional.
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  • Reply 9 of 22
    The trailer was better than the movie.
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  • Reply 10 of 22
    And the Director gets mad because he doesn't know what a good movie is and what is a terrible, boring, nonsense piece of garbage that they all did to pay the next luxury stuff they wanted to buy.... it's not the directors fault, it's Apple fault that they don't have enough professionals reading tons of scripts and having watched thousands of movies to know what is good and what shouldn't even go for consideration.
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  • Reply 11 of 22
    blastdoorblastdoor Posts: 3,671member
    It's hard to find original stories in movies nowadays, they all mirror older movies one way or another. Severance and Ted Lasso were great, but the others like Mosquito Coast and Silo had bad acting and felt amateurish. Anyway I know it's all subjective I know.
    I couldn't disagree more with your assertion that "Silo had bad acting and felt amateurish!".  I think the diametrically opposite viewpoint is true, viz that it has some great acting and feels very polished and professional.
    Same here — Silo is awesome.
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  • Reply 12 of 22
    blastdoorblastdoor Posts: 3,671member
    Movies are dying and I think that’s fine. High quality streaming series are far better than movies. 

    Take the best movie you can think of and it would have been better as a streaming series. For example, the godfather — great two movies that would have been even better as streaming series.
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  • Reply 13 of 22
    blastdoor said:
    Movies are dying and I think that’s fine. High quality streaming series are far better than movies. 

    Take the best movie you can think of and it would have been better as a streaming series. For example, the godfather — great two movies that would have been even better as streaming series.
    The kind of series that I would watch all
    in one go rather than waiting on a weekly basis. Sometimes I would watch the first 10
    mins of the next episode before I finish  watching the current one 😉 
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  • Reply 14 of 22
    thrangthrang Posts: 1,051member
    blastdoor said:
    Movies are dying and I think that’s fine. High quality streaming series are far better than movies. 

    Take the best movie you can think of and it would have been better as a streaming series. For example, the godfather — great two movies that would have been even better as streaming series.
    Ehhh.........nope

    The problem with so many streaming series is they are stuffed with time-sucking scenes. Silo S1 was a series I struggled to complete, and when it was over, I felt the first and last episodes where rather compelling - everything in the middle was an hour of storytelling spread over several hours. 

    As Joel (or Ethan) Cohen said on a Team Deakins podcast (paraphrasing) "Movies have a beginning, middle, and end. Streaming shows have a beginning, middle, middle, middle, middle and end."

    Compression of time - say a two hour movie -  demands more ingenious, compelling, and efficient storytelling where a good writers and directors imagine ways to convey something in inventive and sometimes awe-inspiring ways (ie the bone/spaceship cut in 2001). The largesse streaming doesn't preclude this, but the necessity of having 7-10 hours of "content" takes precedence over whether a story demands or deserves it.

    Compression of time also is often better for tension/release (comedic or dramatic). In many long-format streaming shows (say Foundation or Invasion), there are hours of incidental scenes that do extremely little to tell the story). The "story" of Silo S1 took 8 hours to tell. Probably should have taken less than half that, making it much more compelling.

    Of course there are movies that suck, and streaming shows that are tight and good, but too much content is the length it is not for the story, but for the streamer's catalog...

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  • Reply 15 of 22
    blastdoor said:
    Movies are dying and I think that’s fine. High quality streaming series are far better than movies. 

    Take the best movie you can think of and it would have been better as a streaming series. For example, the godfather — great two movies that would have been even better as streaming series.
    The Godfather was not a fast moving film.  Extending it to 10 hours of miniseries would mean a lot of dragging things out and stuffing with fluff.  No thanks.
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  • Reply 16 of 22
    It's hard to find original stories in movies nowadays, they all mirror older movies one way or another. Severance and Ted Lasso were great, but the others like Mosquito Coast and Silo had bad acting and felt amateurish. Anyway I know it's all subjective I know.
    I couldn't disagree more with your assertion that "Silo had bad acting and felt amateurish!".  I think the diametrically opposite viewpoint is true, viz that it has some great acting and feels very polished and professional.
    Silo seemed pretty bad to me as well, hoke characters and acting. Quit halfway, may continue again knowing expectations are low.
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  • Reply 17 of 22
    thrang said:
    blastdoor said:
    Movies are dying and I think that’s fine. High quality streaming series are far better than movies. 

    Take the best movie you can think of and it would have been better as a streaming series. For example, the godfather — great two movies that would have been even better as streaming series.
    Ehhh.........nope

    The problem with so many streaming series is they are stuffed with time-sucking scenes. Silo S1 was a series I struggled to complete, and when it was over, I felt the first and last episodes where rather compelling - everything in the middle was an hour of storytelling spread over several hours. 

    As Joel (or Ethan) Cohen said on a Team Deakins podcast (paraphrasing) "Movies have a beginning, middle, and end. Streaming shows have a beginning, middle, middle, middle, middle and end."

    Compression of time - say a two hour movie -  demands more ingenious, compelling, and efficient storytelling where a good writers and directors imagine ways to convey something in inventive and sometimes awe-inspiring ways (ie the bone/spaceship cut in 2001). The largesse streaming doesn't preclude this, but the necessity of having 7-10 hours of "content" takes precedence over whether a story demands or deserves it.

    Compression of time also is often better for tension/release (comedic or dramatic). In many long-format streaming shows (say Foundation or Invasion), there are hours of incidental scenes that do extremely little to tell the story). The "story" of Silo S1 took 8 hours to tell. Probably should have taken less than half that, making it much more compelling.

    Of course there are movies that suck, and streaming shows that are tight and good, but too much content is the length it is not for the story, but for the streamer's catalog...

    Yeah streaming shows have a lot of uncompelling filler. The formula predictably now includes an "episode 7 flashback" that is comically prevalent. 
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  • Reply 18 of 22
    That really was not a good movie at all. Glad Apple is not into the sequel. Apple seems to have lost plot in these high budget star filled movies
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  • Reply 19 of 22
    Unpopular opinion but I enjoyed the movie I was not expecting some major blockbuster film and was expecting a similar level of action like most of Mark Wahlberg level films that you find floating around streaming services like Spencer confidential
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  • Reply 20 of 22
    And in terms of most people complaints on Apple TV shows i expect hella filler and episodes that is all suspense/waiting for something to happen since that is how current series are nowadays or even big ones like Breaking Bad that I enjoyed watching but I won’t rewatch all of the episodes again.
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