Next generation CarPlay is missing in action as Apple fails to hit its own deadline

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Back in 2022, Apple loudly talked up its next-generation CarPlay before quietly committing to it being released in 2024 -- and now it's saying nothing about having missed that deadline.

Car dashboard showing speed at 45 mph, gear in drive, and a map with nearby street names.
The new CarPlay would take over all car information and entertainment functions -- image credit: Apple



Apple has always had a reputation for refusing to announce or even admit to something it was working on, until it was ready to ship. Yet when it gave what it called a sneak peek at the new CarPlay in 2022, it sounded as if it were ready.

"Automakers from around the world are excited to bring this new vision of CarPlay to customers," said Emily Schubert, Apple's Senior Manager of Car Experience Engineering at WWDC 2022. "Vehicles will start to be announced late next year, and we can't wait to show you more further down the road."

What Apple showed was nothing less than the complete takeover of a car's entire dashboard by CarPlay. Instead of being confined to a square-ish screen that shows a few apps, the new CarPlay runs everything.

The speed display, the rev counter, the trip counter, whether the car was in Drive or Park, everything. The new CarPlay would use every screen in the car -- and be adapted so that "no matter what type of unique screen shapes or layouts you may have, this next generation of CarPlay feels like it was made specifically for your car."

Schubert is a 20-year veteran of Apple, and in October 2023, she was promoted to Director, Car Experience. But while she is presumably plugging away at the new CarPlay, those excited automakers don't appear to be.

Apple showed a slide featuring 14 car manufacturers, from Audi to Volvo, and none of them have released a car featuring the new CarPlay.

To be fair to Schubert, her three-minute WWDC speech only committed Apple to how cars would start to be announced in 2023, and she wasn't wrong. In 2023, both Porsche and Aston Martin showed off what were basically concept designs.

However, they did so simultaneously on December 20, 2023 -- and neither has actually released a car. Aston Martin committed to a 2024 launch, but Porsche wouldn't be drawn on any date.

And if Apple's WWDC announcement was also carefully-worded, Apple's website announcement was not. "First models arrive in 2024," it said.

Text discussing the next generation of CarPlay, focusing on enhanced iPhone integration, customizable design for automakers, vehicle function control, and release in 2024. Background shows a darkening sky.
The key phrase is at the bottom -- "First models arrive in 2024" -- image credit: Apple



At time of writing, it still says that.

Money doesn't solve everything



It's easy to say that Apple has so much money that it can throw at any problem, but there are limits to even its resources. There are limits when you're working with any outside firms, let alone 14 of them, for which your CarPlay project may not be a priority.

Then it's surely not an easy task to have an iPhone communicate "with your vehicle's real-time systems in an on-device, privacy-friendly way, showing all of your driving information, like speed, RPMs, fuel level, temperature, and more," as Schubert said.

It's just unusual that Apple would either announce a major release early, or that it would fail to correctly assess how long the project would take. There was speculation in 2022 that the announcement was really made because car manufacturers appeared to be abandoning support for CarPlay.

Schubert also said in her speech that "79% of US buyers would only consider a car that works with CarPlay," which did definitely sound like a shot across the bows of car makers thinking of leaving.

Some still did, though it's not been a great or popular move for those manufacturers.


There was also speculation that this new CarPlay was actually a sneak peek at the Apple Car -- but the car project was then abandoned.

Maybe CarPlay has been abandoned too, although there have been signs of its life in regulatory databases.

We've been here before, on a smaller scale



Or maybe it's just a larger-scale version of what happened with Apple Music over its classical music app. Apple specifically promised that Apple Music Classical would be released in 2022, after the company acquired classical streamer Primephonic in 2021.

While it missed its 2022 deadline, Apple Music Classical was also constantly rumored to be about to launch. There was also evidence, too, in the form of code in iOS.

In the end, Apple Music Classical came out as practically a surprise, a few months into 2023. It's still been a long rollout to different Apple devices, although most recently it was made available -- on CarPlay.

The new CarPlay could go the same way. But unlike Apple Music Classical, its fate is not entirely within Apple's control.

Instead, it depends on Apple and at least 14 major car manufacturers.



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  • Reply 1 of 24
    badmonkbadmonk Posts: 1,352member
    Apple for good and bad has a reputation for not playing well with other companies.  I am amazed that with the pressure that non-Chinese automakers are under from Chinese competition and accusations of under and over investment in EVs and plug in hybrids, that an Apple partnership hasn’t been announced.  It would put any beleaguered auto manufacturer back in the game and would give Apple a longterm toe hole in the automotive market.  Imagine how amazing a transparent infomatic windshield by Apple would be?  And with Apple’s VR prowess it should be doable.  It could mean a vehicle selling at a premium to the benefit of both companies.  And eventually the tech would make its way downstream.
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  • Reply 2 of 24
    There is an old quote… at least in Argentina… that says: “If you sleep with children your will awake wet!”

    In this case: “If Apple must relay in car manufacturers to launch a product… the timeline will surely slip!”

    (But remember… blaming Apple for anything —even Lord William's age— brings page views… aka ad revene!)
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  • Reply 3 of 24
    9secondkox29secondkox2 Posts: 3,330member
    Want to run full CarPlay in the bmw. Come on guys! Get it moving!
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  • Reply 4 of 24
    igorskyigorsky Posts: 781member
    This article sounds like the author is trying to play “gotcha, Apple”. 

    What does “talking loudly” mean? They did a presentation about a new product? Not a new concept in the tech world. And why are we so quick to assign blame? My understanding is that they have to work closely with carmakers on this, who aren’t exactly any kind of pinnacle of efficiency. 
    edited January 1
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  • Reply 5 of 24
    charlesncharlesn Posts: 1,400member
    Current generation of CarPlay is failing in my 2020 Mazda since iOS 18. (Not just me, it's all over the Mazda online forums.) Most requests of Siri will crash CarPlay, requiring unplugging and replugging of phone. No fix from Apple yet, and the loss of Siri requests really undermines the whole "hands off" point of CarPlay. My wife's 15 Pro that's still running iOS 17 has no issue. 
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  • Reply 6 of 24
    Apple should have bought Lucid and made it that Apple car.
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  • Reply 7 of 24
    AppleZuluapplezulu Posts: 2,359member
    Next generation CarPlay was surely wrapped up in the fate of the long-rumored Apple Car, and the 2022 CarPlay preview announcement may ultimately have led to the demise of the Apple Car project. 

    CarPlay is dependent on cooperation from existing automakers. Ceding the infotainment and satnav screen to Apple (and Google) solved a significant problem for the auto manufacturers. Car makers had always sold each model with a set collection of features, and improvements only come to subsequent model years. 

    Their bespoke satnav and infotainment screens introduced new ongoing obligations which they were universally awful at meeting. CarPlay solved that problem. Let Apple handle the on-screen updates and upgrades. 

    With Apple Car, the phone maker would become a direct competitor to existing auto manufacturers. Continuing to give that same company real estate on an infotainment screen then becomes a bit awkward. With the 2022 next-generation CarPlay preview showing Apple all over the dashboard and diving deep into the car’s controls, this surely became untenable. 

    How do you differentiate and compete with an Apple Car competitor while also giving Apple control over most of your customers’ interactions with your own vehicles? For several car companies, the answer was already becoming “you don’t.”

    I would suggest that Apple dropped the car project because this problem was now causing their car to undermine rather than reinforce their carefully curated Apple ecosystem. 

    CarPlay adds value to and reinforces the ecosystem that sells Apple hardware. Upgrades to your iPhone are carried right over into your car for daily commutes and family road trips. On its own, an Apple Car would do that, too. 

    Other carmakers dropping CarPlay out of competitive concerns and offering bespoke systems (or worse, featuring Google/Android) undermines Apple’s core business. While some consumers currently say CarPlay is a required feature when considering a new car purchase, will they hold to that if it eventually means you can only get it if you buy an Apple Car? Apparently that was a gamble Apple wasn’t prepared to make. 

    That miscalculation likely set back implementation of next generation CarPlay. Now that the Apple Car is no longer a factor, other carmakers will reassess the benefits and concerns over giving Apple more presence and control of their vehicle cabins, but the automotive design and manufacturing lead time for resets in this relationship is probably years in many cases, rather than months. 
    edited January 1
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  • Reply 8 of 24
    tzterritzterri Posts: 115member
    charlesn said:
    Current generation of CarPlay is failing in my 2020 Mazda since iOS 18. (Not just me, it's all over the Mazda online forums.) Most requests of Siri will crash CarPlay, requiring unplugging and replugging of phone. No fix from Apple yet, and the loss of Siri requests really undermines the whole "hands off" point of CarPlay. My wife's 15 Pro that's still running iOS 17 has no issue. 
    I've had two Honda cars with CarPlay. Both came with wired CarPlay not wireless. CarPlay worked without issues in my 2017 Honda Accord hybrid. But my 2020 CRV hybrid CarPlay used to crash constantly require me to hold down the volume button until it restarted. I think part of the problem is the display is actually running some really old version of android that cannot be upgraded. I got a wireless CarPlay adapter, and any issues almost totally went away.  
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  • Reply 9 of 24
    avon b7avon b7 Posts: 8,207member
    All the 'maybe's' presented here are valid but Apple's biggest problem now is not actually having a car, and having to convince car manufacturers to buy into a deal that effectively wedges Apple in between them and their users.

    That is a very hard sell (no matter what iPhone users may say about not buying a car with CarPlay) because NEVs are basically smart vehicles with batteries and the secret sauce is in all the 'intelligent' aspects. 

    The big ICE era manufacturers blew it with their own efforts by not shipping effective solutions in good time. That applies to Apple to. Those manufacturers are now seeking joint ventures with many Chinese brands, many of whom don't make phones. 

    Of course, Huawei and Xiaomi are the two elephants in the room here as they do have stakes in the automobile sectors which are tightly integrated with their phones. To a degree that was perhaps unthinkable four years ago. 

    Another problem was that when Apple was announcing the next version of CarPlay, Huawei was shipping a far more advanced solution to its automobile partners with very deep integration and a spread of different solutions that partners could choose from. That has only taken giant leaps since then and to the point that if you are looking at something like an AITO M9 you are also probably weighing up a Huawei phone purchase if you don't already have one. At least in China and that's where the main market is. 

    The same scenario applies to many Chinese manufacturers and right across the price bands from 'affordable' to 'ultimate luxury'.

    Outside China most options will seem stone age in comparison and anyone letting Apple/Google provide a solution will probably not want to give them too much control over the car internals. It's not looking good for deeper integration but the EU and US markets are currently flailing in their efforts to come up with a stellar solution and no one knows what Apple plans to do with any core solutions it may have been developing. For example, does it have an equivalent to Huawei's GOD network system and, if it does, would it be willing to sell/licence it to car manufacturers? 
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  • Reply 10 of 24
    9secondkox29secondkox2 Posts: 3,330member
    sroussey2 said:
    Apple should have bought Lucid and made it that Apple car.
    What a great idea that would have been. A superior car for sure. Vistied Lucid to check out the Air Sapphire and the Gravity later on. Unbeleivable vehicles. The care and craft that has gone into them is insane. Just like Apple. spend enough money, and you have performance that puts exitic nameplates to shame. 

    Was really interested, but just not a fan of electic vehicles. If Apple would have bought them, I definitely would have bought in. There may still be an opportunity as Lucid is struggling a bit with nearly 50% production drop this last quarter. If Apple bought them and hired some of Tesla's business guys (say what you will, but they know how to navigate volatile markets and come out on top), business would be booming. That could lead to reneable energy offerings as well. If anyone knows about renewable energy, it's Apple. If I had the equivanent of a Tesla solar roof and PowerWall, an EV for daily commute would be a no-brainer. Perhaps Apple saw that allof the above was covered by Tesla already and didn't want ot get into a market where they weren't an end to end solution?
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  • Reply 11 of 24
    dewmedewme Posts: 5,966member
    tzterri said:
    charlesn said:
    Current generation of CarPlay is failing in my 2020 Mazda since iOS 18. (Not just me, it's all over the Mazda online forums.) Most requests of Siri will crash CarPlay, requiring unplugging and replugging of phone. No fix from Apple yet, and the loss of Siri requests really undermines the whole "hands off" point of CarPlay. My wife's 15 Pro that's still running iOS 17 has no issue. 
    I've had two Honda cars with CarPlay. Both came with wired CarPlay not wireless. CarPlay worked without issues in my 2017 Honda Accord hybrid. But my 2020 CRV hybrid CarPlay used to crash constantly require me to hold down the volume button until it restarted. I think part of the problem is the display is actually running some really old version of android that cannot be upgraded. I got a wireless CarPlay adapter, and any issues almost totally went away.  
    Never had the crash issues on the same year, make, and model but the wireless adapter I have works extremely well with one minor issue related to my personal circumstances. My cellular service (all carriers) reeks where I live because the majority of the local population does not own cell phones, much less smartphones. When I get in my car inside the garage and start it up my iPhone disconnects from my home network and connects to the CarPlay wireless adapter immediately. A problem arises if I then try to set navigation directions or anything that requires an online connection. Since the cellular signal is weak and the wireless adapter connection is local-only, the phone just spins while trying to contact the outside world. If I complete whatever requires an online connection before I start the car my iPhone uses my WiFi. Likewise, if I drive a short distance my iPhone will hit a tower and CarPlay will recover.

    I'm hopeful that things will soon change for me because I noticed a new cell tower is going up nearby and it should be line-of-sight to my house to mitigate the cellular connection issues. At home most of my Apple devices use WiFi calling and everything works great, until the power goes out, which is very infrequent. 

    Speaking of Honda and annoyances that never seem to get fixed, every time I start of the CRV it starts playing music regardless of whether I was playing music, even if I had the entire audio system was turned OFF when I last turned the car off. It does this regardless of whether I'm using CarPlay or the crappy Honda infotainment system. This has been happening since Day One of owning the vehicle. WTF? Once again, a total a-hole product  manufacturer forcing an annoying behavior on their customers and refusing to provide a way to disable it. Making annoyances the default or opt-out behavior is bad enough, but not allowing customers to turn the damn thing off is a violation of acceptable customer service.

    I'm starting to see Apple inflicting the same type of customer disservice in its latest OS releases. The poster child of course is the Photos app, which is annoying as ^%$# in its current form. I'm not one of those "Who moved my cheese?" people. I just want to be able to control how I organize and use the apps on my devices. They are not broke so don't fix them. Let me turn new features/experiments off. I'm starting to feel that Apple is in a panic state trying to prove to the market that it is relevant in AI. The problem is the way they are going about doing it. Making silly changes simply for the sake of change or to garner "Look at me!" attention has created a discontinuity in how they bring new products and features to market.

    Apple was doing great by establishing their own path and plans and releasing stuff that actually worked pretty well and were in a reasonably finished state from Day One. Now they're following other people's paths and plans and kowtowing to things that are more trendy than useful. They're also over promising, trickling out way too many unfinished/incomplete features, and the reliability and predictability of their software has definitely slipped. Foundational features that once worked reliably and predictably, like Time Machine, are now broken with no fix in sight. It all smells of desperation, not the dominance we have come to rely on. 
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  • Reply 12 of 24
    sroussey2 said:
    Apple should have bought Lucid and made it that Apple car.
    What a great idea that would have been. A superior car for sure. Vistied Lucid to check out the Air Sapphire and the Gravity later on. Unbeleivable vehicles. The care and craft that has gone into them is insane. Just like Apple. spend enough money, and you have performance that puts exitic nameplates to shame. 

    Was really interested, but just not a fan of electic vehicles. If Apple would have bought them, I definitely would have bought in. There may still be an opportunity as Lucid is struggling a bit with nearly 50% production drop this last quarter. If Apple bought them and hired some of Tesla's business guys (say what you will, but they know how to navigate volatile markets and come out on top), business would be booming. That could lead to reneable energy offerings as well. If anyone knows about renewable energy, it's Apple. If I had the equivanent of a Tesla solar roof and PowerWall, an EV for daily commute would be a no-brainer. Perhaps Apple saw that allof the above was covered by Tesla already and didn't want ot get into a market where they weren't an end to end solution?
    There's really no opportunity to buy Lucid, regardless of production drop. Lucid is ~65% owned by the Saudi Public Investment Fund (PIF).  CarPlay 2 was never going to get off the ground without agreements regarding data aggregation and sharing.  No OEM was going to give up access to all the customer data they collected.  The specter of customers forgoing purchasing specific vehicles due to lack of full CarPlay integration was never really an actual concern.  As long as customers have access to CarPlay via wireless and wired means, OEM car manufacturers don't really have to concern themselves with Apple's plans.  Additonally, they have Google more than happy to provide backend systems assistance and information access... yeah, Apple never stood a chance.
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  • Reply 13 of 24
    zeus423zeus423 Posts: 280member
    charlesn said:
    Current generation of CarPlay is failing in my 2020 Mazda since iOS 18. (Not just me, it's all over the Mazda online forums.) Most requests of Siri will crash CarPlay, requiring unplugging and replugging of phone. No fix from Apple yet, and the loss of Siri requests really undermines the whole "hands off" point of CarPlay. My wife's 15 Pro that's still running iOS 17 has no issue. 
    My Mazda6 (2020) has had nothing but playback errors when asking Siri to send a message or call someone ever since iOS 18. At least I know it’s not just me. 
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  • Reply 14 of 24
    AppleZuluapplezulu Posts: 2,359member
    zeus423 said:
    charlesn said:
    Current generation of CarPlay is failing in my 2020 Mazda since iOS 18. (Not just me, it's all over the Mazda online forums.) Most requests of Siri will crash CarPlay, requiring unplugging and replugging of phone. No fix from Apple yet, and the loss of Siri requests really undermines the whole "hands off" point of CarPlay. My wife's 15 Pro that's still running iOS 17 has no issue. 
    My Mazda6 (2020) has had nothing but playback errors when asking Siri to send a message or call someone ever since iOS 18. At least I know it’s not just me. 
    Given that these problems are specific to Mazda, it could just as well be they’re the ones who need to issue an update for their device, rather than Apple needing to issue a fix for iOS. 
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  • Reply 15 of 24
    zeus423zeus423 Posts: 280member
    AppleZulu said:
    zeus423 said:
    charlesn said:
    Current generation of CarPlay is failing in my 2020 Mazda since iOS 18. (Not just me, it's all over the Mazda online forums.) Most requests of Siri will crash CarPlay, requiring unplugging and replugging of phone. No fix from Apple yet, and the loss of Siri requests really undermines the whole "hands off" point of CarPlay. My wife's 15 Pro that's still running iOS 17 has no issue. 
    My Mazda6 (2020) has had nothing but playback errors when asking Siri to send a message or call someone ever since iOS 18. At least I know it’s not just me. 
    Given that these problems are specific to Mazda, it could just as well be they’re the ones who need to issue an update for their device, rather than Apple needing to issue a fix for iOS. 

    That very well could be correct. Whether it's Apple or Mazda, it was not a problem with iOS 17. The hard part is always getting one company to not say that it's the other company's fault.
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  • Reply 16 of 24
    nubusnubus Posts: 775member
    avon b7 said:
    All the 'maybe's' presented here are valid but Apple's biggest problem now is not actually having a car, and having to convince car manufacturers to buy into a deal that effectively wedges Apple in between them and their users.
    Your entire analysis is outstanding.

    Apple is trying to move from the cute entertainment display to taking over the core of the car interface. The part that interfaces with the driver and defines the driving experience. What is the upside for automakers? Should an automaker be unable to deliver an acceptable experience it might look at what Apple has to offer. I'm thinking Stellantis (Jeep, Chrysler, and a lot of 3rd tier European brands). Would Apple be interested in doing a deal with a 3rd tier vendor? It would be like partnering with Aldi.

    Apple really should have present a new plan. Is it technical or are automakers a bit more careful about partnering with Apple? 
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  • Reply 17 of 24
    charlesncharlesn Posts: 1,400member
    sroussey2 said:
    Apple should have bought Lucid and made it that Apple car.
    Ummm... maybe not. For its most recently reported quarter, Lucid lost a staggering $360,000 on EVERY car it delivered. And losses, overall, are heading in the wrong direction, up significantly YOY for this quarter. And look: Lucid is a really fine car, this just demonstrates the difficulty of competing in the EV space. And we don't even see the real EV competition in the US because the Chinese EVs are kept out via high tariffs. Some of the higher end Chinese models make the Lucid look like your basic Corolla.  And sure, an Apple-badged Lucid, along with whatever CarPlay-on-steroids magic that Apple would have brought to it would almost certainly be more successful--not a huge goal when you're losing $360K per car. But Apple's business is built on margin percentages that range from the high 30s to near 80% when you get to Services--even assuming they could get the car business to be profitable--the margins would be much, much lower. 

    avon b7 said:
    All the 'maybe's' presented here are valid but Apple's biggest problem now is not actually having a car, and having to convince car manufacturers to buy into a deal that effectively wedges Apple in between them and their users.

    Absolutely. I really thought GM would pay a severe price in sales when it abandoned CarPlay and Android Auto in favor of its own proprietary and profitable infotainment system, but that hasn't happened. Not hard to see why a car company would pursue this: there is SO much consumer data that can be gathered in a car, then sliced and diced and sold to whomever! (Oh, you mean you didn't read the 1500 page EULA you signed when you picked up your GM car that gives them ownership of your data?) The most infamous example so far of how this can be used against the driver occurred when GM started selling the data it was collecting on personal driving habits--average speeds, braking distances, hard turns, etc.--to insurance companies, which then jacked up the rates for drivers with "poor" data. And then, of course, GM can take the most desirable features of its infotainment system and charge a monthly subscription fee for their use. And now that GM seems to be getting away with this, with little to no consumer blowback, this can only encourage other automakers to go the same route. As it did with GM, Google is only too happy to partner and help automakers create their own proprietary system. 
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  • Reply 18 of 24
    Seems like a big mistake for a company to give control of its products to another company.
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  • Reply 19 of 24
    9secondkox29secondkox2 Posts: 3,330member
    sroussey2 said:
    Apple should have bought Lucid and made it that Apple car.
    What a great idea that would have been. A superior car for sure. Vistied Lucid to check out the Air Sapphire and the Gravity later on. Unbeleivable vehicles. The care and craft that has gone into them is insane. Just like Apple. spend enough money, and you have performance that puts exitic nameplates to shame. 

    Was really interested, but just not a fan of electic vehicles. If Apple would have bought them, I definitely would have bought in. There may still be an opportunity as Lucid is struggling a bit with nearly 50% production drop this last quarter. If Apple bought them and hired some of Tesla's business guys (say what you will, but they know how to navigate volatile markets and come out on top), business would be booming. That could lead to reneable energy offerings as well. If anyone knows about renewable energy, it's Apple. If I had the equivanent of a Tesla solar roof and PowerWall, an EV for daily commute would be a no-brainer. Perhaps Apple saw that allof the above was covered by Tesla already and didn't want ot get into a market where they weren't an end to end solution?
    There's really no opportunity to buy Lucid, regardless of production drop. Lucid is ~65% owned by the Saudi Public Investment Fund (PIF).  CarPlay 2 was never going to get off the ground without agreements regarding data aggregation and sharing.  No OEM was going to give up access to all the customer data they collected.  The specter of customers forgoing purchasing specific vehicles due to lack of full CarPlay integration was never really an actual concern.  As long as customers have access to CarPlay via wireless and wired means, OEM car manufacturers don't really have to concern themselves with Apple's plans.  Additonally, they have Google more than happy to provide backend systems assistance and information access... yeah, Apple never stood a chance.
    The PIF is a group. Apple can make the sale from that group. The only barrier is willingness of either party - just like anything else. 

    If Apple wanted Lucid, they could buy it. And it would make more sense than 3.5 billion for a redundant headphone company. 
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  • Reply 20 of 24
    9secondkox29secondkox2 Posts: 3,330member
    Sometimes you dream of moving away from outdated looking digital dashboards on a vehicle or just plain gimmicky looking OEM UI. Let the customers do that for crying out loud - with a UI that gets updated regularly. What the heck is wrong with that. The customers pay your salary. Work on what they want. 

    Amd we want full featured CarPlay. 
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