In theory osx tries to divide the threads going to each processor not the actual application. so depending on how it is written, osx by it self would not make it nulit proc. but help out a bit. i think...
Maya is threaded. OSX can divy out threads to any processor it wants, but it favors keeping threads that share local data on the same processor (less register loading/unloading). Since Maya, like most applications, runs multiple threads on multiple sets of data, Maya can be spread onto two processors fairly effectively. If A|W decides to optimize Maya's MP performance on OSX, they can thread their application with two processors in mind, and increase MP performance this way.
You notice how the reflections are flat horizonal lines? Well, this pretty much never happens in real life, and I doubt that the guy who "took" the picture set up an entire lighting rig to get that effect. When an object reflects light in the real world, it never reflects just one light source. There are always many different objects and light to reflect. The curve of the hinges should be reflecting lightS, the table the thing is sitting on, the room around it, etc.
It's called environment reflection. If it isn't there, it's because the person took alot of time and money to set up the shot to specifically avoid it- or its a 3-d render. Even 3d-renders can fake an environment reflection, you can even do it in photoshop. But to not have one is pretty sad.
It 's too bad, too. The email that I assume came with the pictures sounded so promising.
Yeah, as Kid-red figured out, yourdailymac ripped off Isamu Sanada ( <a href="http://www.applele.com"; target="_blank">www.applele.com</a> ). If you go over to his site, you'll see a ton of alternate Mac designs. All photoshopped of course.
I'm not sure if he used Photoshop or not, but Applele's designs are some of the best I've seen. They follow Apple's design direction very well and look very sleek.
---Steve has said the MHZ gap would be closed by "then end of this year". 7 days after the new year is close enough for me. Though, this could refer to a blazing Apollo chip.
---Several different rumor sites reporting the G5's are coming, they think. The Register source sounds very credible to me. If these things are a hoax then I will be surprised. The detail and timing are very good if so.
---Dorsal has backed up and said his superiors may be working with G5 prototypes after all.
---The pushing of the keynote coincided almost exactly with the rumored first production run on 12 December.
---My own personal research tells me that it is indeed possible to go from a final revision on a chip to it being used in quantity in a shipping product in 60 days. We heard the chip was very close to final in November.....it almost seemed that they had a little EXTRA time to iron out the bugs ["Apple could probably sign off now....but...."]
---There are some folks here on these boards who are not known for screwing with us telling everyone that they know G5's are coming in Q1.
---Even asthappleturns has all but jumped on the wagon. When they drop, you know something is up.
---No official denials from Apple or MOT (see below however)
Against:
1) ThinkSecret says "nope". Though, this should almost be in the other column considering the source's track record.
2) Apollo just got done. Will they really put it in the iMac and Tibook only? (Will they "skip" over Apollo if it is running at like 1.4GHZ?)
3) I admit the possibility of a 600-800 mhz speed increase in six months is unlikely. Not impossible, but when put that way, it diminishes the chances.
4) The statement for MOT about not wanting to get people's hopes up "beyond what is really possible". Though the rest of the article is open to interpretation....it could even strengthen the case FOR a G5.
5) They just changed the G4 case. Six months later they are going to totally revamp the towers? Again, though depending on interpretation and opinion, this could support the case FOR a G5...they could have had the case redesign done and ready, then had problems with MOT again.
That is about all I can think of. Overall though, I think there are just too many coincidences in support of a G5 coming out to ignore. One, two , or even three of the "for" column may not sway opinion, but all of them?
The only thing we can do as people that AREN'T "in the know" is draw conclusions from what we have seen. I think if one looks at the case "for" it is significantly stronger than the case "against". But, it is not irrefutable. We'll see. You know what I'm hoping for and what I think will happen.
Yes, but the G5 will come in at 1ghz, 1.2ghz, 1.4ghz and so on. The jump from a 867 to a say a dual 1.2 top of the line wouldn't be that big of a jump. We have no way of knowing what speeds the G5 will come in at if it does come at all.
Why go with the Apollo for just one more run when it's about topped out. This Jan show for G4s would be the definate last G4 in a tower. So if G4s show up in towers in Jan, then it's the end of the line and G5s will debut in June.
It comes down to are the G5s ready and/or does Apple want to squeeze one more rev out of the G4s.
Also, the Apollo could very well be for the iMac and PB, that's why Moto said the Apollo was ready an that's why the G4 has life left. If the Apollo can scale to 1.2 -1.4ghz, come out with 3 models of iMac all at 1ghz, then you have 6 months and speed bump up to 1.2ghz, then another 6 months to 1.4ghz. By then the G5 should be close to 2.0ghz and the iMac could get a 1.2- 1.4ghz G5.
[quote]It comes down to are the G5s ready and/or does Apple want to squeeze one more rev out of the G4s. <hr></blockquote>
I agree. I think that is what this keynote change is about. They had the iMac G4 done...and the back-up plan was a G4 PM @ 867, 1.0 single and 933 dual. That way they could put the 800's in the iMacs and no one would bitch. But now, they have the G5 done and can go to 1GHZ with the Apollo's in the iMac. I think that this week there are going to be about a quadrillion iMacs and G5's rolling off the lines*
*confimed: the above is what I think but is also rampant speculation.
hey had the iMac G4 done...and the back-up plan was a G4 PM @ 867, 1.0 single and 933 dual.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I will soooooo disappointed if we get G4s where the top of the line is a dual 1.0ghz. That would be like taking away a new bike from a kid on Christmas after he already opened it. Simply devestating. At least get to dual 1.2's but even then, I might be compelled to wait till June for the G5s hopeful appearence. Hell, maybe I'll get an iMac to hold me off some til June, lol. (not)
Sounds reasonable; however you still can make a case for the G5 showing up in three weeks from what they say. Perhaps they've shipped out two classes of prototypes: one with the guts of a G5 Tower, one with the guts of a G4 iMac.
The fact that the supposed prototype G5s aren't supposed to be returned to Apple until february could simply be a result of the new machines not shipping until around that time.
[quote]Originally posted by rickag:
<strong>I don't know if any one has posted a link to Architosh , but they have a revised version of their previous article.
Personally, I question the implementation of hypertransport in the next G4 revision, but it would defenitely be a great upgrade.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well, the usually-reliable (?) <a href="http://www.appleturns.com"; target="_blank">As the Apple Turns</a> just reported that there's no G5. Their lava lamp seems pretty emphatic on this issue. Plus, the Register's mole has been silent for over a month. And then Architosh, this morning.
Oh well. Good thing I wasn't getting my hopes up. (well, maybe just a little)
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[ 12-13-2001: Message edited by: Bodhi ]</p>
(French translation)
(Martian translation)
MMMMMMMMM......G5......
[ 12-13-2001: Message edited by: Bodhi ]</p>
Sure, no way to track that......
<a href="http://www.phasedreality.com/yourdailymac/newimac.jpg"; target="_blank">YourDailyMac</a>
But this is an old AppleLe rendition of the PowerBook last year-
<a href="http://www.applele.com/powerfulbook2_a.jpg"; target="_blank">AppleLe PowerBook</a>
HAHAHAHAHA
You notice how the reflections are flat horizonal lines? Well, this pretty much never happens in real life, and I doubt that the guy who "took" the picture set up an entire lighting rig to get that effect. When an object reflects light in the real world, it never reflects just one light source. There are always many different objects and light to reflect. The curve of the hinges should be reflecting lightS, the table the thing is sitting on, the room around it, etc.
It's called environment reflection. If it isn't there, it's because the person took alot of time and money to set up the shot to specifically avoid it- or its a 3-d render. Even 3d-renders can fake an environment reflection, you can even do it in photoshop. But to not have one is pretty sad.
It 's too bad, too. The email that I assume came with the pictures sounded so promising.
[ 12-14-2001: Message edited by: Arty50 ]</p>
For:
---Steve has said the MHZ gap would be closed by "then end of this year". 7 days after the new year is close enough for me. Though, this could refer to a blazing Apollo chip.
---Several different rumor sites reporting the G5's are coming, they think. The Register source sounds very credible to me. If these things are a hoax then I will be surprised. The detail and timing are very good if so.
---Dorsal has backed up and said his superiors may be working with G5 prototypes after all.
---The pushing of the keynote coincided almost exactly with the rumored first production run on 12 December.
---My own personal research tells me that it is indeed possible to go from a final revision on a chip to it being used in quantity in a shipping product in 60 days. We heard the chip was very close to final in November.....it almost seemed that they had a little EXTRA time to iron out the bugs ["Apple could probably sign off now....but...."]
---There are some folks here on these boards who are not known for screwing with us telling everyone that they know G5's are coming in Q1.
---Even asthappleturns has all but jumped on the wagon. When they drop, you know something is up.
---No official denials from Apple or MOT (see below however)
Against:
1) ThinkSecret says "nope". Though, this should almost be in the other column considering the source's track record.
2) Apollo just got done. Will they really put it in the iMac and Tibook only? (Will they "skip" over Apollo if it is running at like 1.4GHZ?)
3) I admit the possibility of a 600-800 mhz speed increase in six months is unlikely. Not impossible, but when put that way, it diminishes the chances.
4) The statement for MOT about not wanting to get people's hopes up "beyond what is really possible". Though the rest of the article is open to interpretation....it could even strengthen the case FOR a G5.
5) They just changed the G4 case. Six months later they are going to totally revamp the towers? Again, though depending on interpretation and opinion, this could support the case FOR a G5...they could have had the case redesign done and ready, then had problems with MOT again.
That is about all I can think of. Overall though, I think there are just too many coincidences in support of a G5 coming out to ignore. One, two , or even three of the "for" column may not sway opinion, but all of them?
The only thing we can do as people that AREN'T "in the know" is draw conclusions from what we have seen. I think if one looks at the case "for" it is significantly stronger than the case "against". But, it is not irrefutable. We'll see. You know what I'm hoping for and what I think will happen.
[ 12-16-2001: Message edited by: SDW2001 ]</p>
That said, I find it hard to believe that MOTO would have gotten 500 MHZ out of the G4 this fast. 867 to 1.4 GHZ, in 6 months?
Hell, it took damn near 2 years to go from 500 to 867MHZ
Why go with the Apollo for just one more run when it's about topped out. This Jan show for G4s would be the definate last G4 in a tower. So if G4s show up in towers in Jan, then it's the end of the line and G5s will debut in June.
It comes down to are the G5s ready and/or does Apple want to squeeze one more rev out of the G4s.
Also, the Apollo could very well be for the iMac and PB, that's why Moto said the Apollo was ready an that's why the G4 has life left. If the Apollo can scale to 1.2 -1.4ghz, come out with 3 models of iMac all at 1ghz, then you have 6 months and speed bump up to 1.2ghz, then another 6 months to 1.4ghz. By then the G5 should be close to 2.0ghz and the iMac could get a 1.2- 1.4ghz G5.
So many theories, I hope for a G5.
[quote]It comes down to are the G5s ready and/or does Apple want to squeeze one more rev out of the G4s. <hr></blockquote>
I agree. I think that is what this keynote change is about. They had the iMac G4 done...and the back-up plan was a G4 PM @ 867, 1.0 single and 933 dual. That way they could put the 800's in the iMacs and no one would bitch. But now, they have the G5 done and can go to 1GHZ with the Apollo's in the iMac. I think that this week there are going to be about a quadrillion iMacs and G5's rolling off the lines*
*confimed: the above is what I think but is also rampant speculation.
<strong>
hey had the iMac G4 done...and the back-up plan was a G4 PM @ 867, 1.0 single and 933 dual.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I will soooooo disappointed if we get G4s where the top of the line is a dual 1.0ghz. That would be like taking away a new bike from a kid on Christmas after he already opened it. Simply devestating. At least get to dual 1.2's but even then, I might be compelled to wait till June for the G5s hopeful appearence. Hell, maybe I'll get an iMac to hold me off some til June, lol. (not)
Maybe sanity is coming back to the rumors.
<a href="http://www.architosh.com/news/2001-12/2001c-1215-g4g5.phtml"; target="_blank">http://www.architosh.com/news/2001-12/2001c-1215-g4g5.phtml</a>;
Personally, I question the implementation of hypertransport in the next G4 revision, but it would defenitely be a great upgrade.
The fact that the supposed prototype G5s aren't supposed to be returned to Apple until february could simply be a result of the new machines not shipping until around that time.
[quote]Originally posted by rickag:
<strong>I don't know if any one has posted a link to Architosh , but they have a revised version of their previous article.
Maybe sanity is coming back to the rumors.
<a href="http://www.architosh.com/news/2001-12/2001c-1215-g4g5.phtml"; target="_blank">http://www.architosh.com/news/2001-12/2001c-1215-g4g5.phtml</a>;
Personally, I question the implementation of hypertransport in the next G4 revision, but it would defenitely be a great upgrade.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Oh well. Good thing I wasn't getting my hopes up. (well, maybe just a little)
-mithral