Usb 2
I did a search and can't find a thing anywhere on usb 2.
Maybe the forum is screwed up.
Anyway, does anyone have any info about when Mac is releasing this into any of the computer lines?
Pc's incorporated this a long time ago.
Does anyone think Apple is prolonging this to promote Firewire more so?
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Maybe the forum is screwed up.
Anyway, does anyone have any info about when Mac is releasing this into any of the computer lines?
Pc's incorporated this a long time ago.
Does anyone think Apple is prolonging this to promote Firewire more so?
<img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
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Good job apple.
USB 2.0 devices are out NOW and are usually $20 cheaper then the same device only with a F/W connection. Although the connection may be better, i want to have the option of saving $20 here and there... it is quite ridiculous as most PCs come with USB 2.0 standard now.
"good job apple" ?? WTF? WHAT possible good comes out of holding back the current standard on the mac... its not like it would HURT anything to add it... so why not give the option to the consumers?
its like sticking with thousands of colors instead of millions for no good reason... it would cost what, 50¢ extra per machine to add it? <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
[ 11-29-2002: Message edited by: Paul ]</p>
<strong>The importance of USB 2 for me is with a 667 Titanium and Digidesign's Mbox. Supposedly audio will kick much more ass with my setup when I get a next generation laptop with USB 2. I could be wrong but it seems with the much greater throughput it couldn't hurt.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yep, your wrong. Mbox will have no performance gains from usb 2. Its based on the USB 1.5 spec, and will not perform any better when connected through a computer with a USB 2 port. Now if digidesign updates the MBox to support 2.0, THEN we'll see lower latency, etc. Though it would probably make more sense to go w/ firewire or at this point just hold out and go with firewire 2 in the near future. But i guess they dont want it to tread on the 002's turf.
<strong>Also remember, USB2 taxes your CPU far more than USB1 did. Firewire hardly does at all.</strong><hr></blockquote>
yeah and if this bothers you you could always just stick with USB 1 devices.. noone is twisting your arm forcing you to buy the cheaper USB 2.0 devices... but of course not having 2.0 in the first place limits your options
The "B" in USB has been made useless. You're expected to buy a USB 2.0 hub in order to use more than one USB 2.0 device.
Firewire doesn't have this problem so long your slower devices are attached at the end of the daisy chain.
USB 2.0 is a joke. It's a hyped serial port that ties you down to a CPU (and hogs the CPU too).
Firewire still has an opportunity to kick USB's butt into obscurity.
The only reason USB 2.0 isn't on Apple's boards is because they need to look better on spec sheets. USB 2.0 is slower, sure, but on a spec sheet it looks better. 400Mb/s vs. 480Mb/s.
And I'd like to point out to you that USB 2.0 isn't exactly obscure, in fact it is probably less so (now) than Firewire/iLink/IEEE 1394a. There are plenty of devices out there and almost every PC has it now, as previously stated. This isn't like taking a dive and including a hyper-mega-fast optical port for which no devices (essentially) have been created for yet. This technology is really out there in mass quantity.
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It's all about marketing - not data...
engpjp
You heard it from me first...
<strong>This isn't like taking a dive and including a hyper-mega-fast optical port for which no devices (essentially) have been created for yet. </strong><hr></blockquote>
you mean like FW 2?
Same thing with USB 1.1 and 2.0.
If you check my posts you will see that I never advocated the inclusion of the 1.6Gb/s IEEE 1394b variant.
Is this really an issue for Apple or should those wanting it be telling the vendor of the device they need to have FW added ?
<strong>Most peripherals ( mostly scanners and printers ) that I have seen with USB 2 also have FW.
Is this really an issue for Apple or should those wanting it be telling the vendor of the device they need to have FW added ?</strong><hr></blockquote>
yes this is true most supporters of USB 2.0 also have F/W options, but it seems the F/W is usually $20 more then the USB 2.0 version <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> unacceptable. I realize that f/w is a better solution, but that does not justify jacking up the price $20