A couple of things. ThinkSecret just posted an article about "contraints" in shipment of G5 products (PowerMacs, X Serves) and continuing "demand outstripping supply" of iPod mini's. This is not unexpected. If anyone paid attention to the last conference call comments it was specifically stated that supplies of these products would continued to be constrained until the beginning of next year. IBM is the culprit here. I would suggest that when the G5 iMac is introduced there will be very few available. Look for product to arrive at the end of September to those lucky enough to get it. Until IBM gets their act together, Apple is unfortunately at their mercy. Don't blame Apple completely for this contiuing fiasco.
OK, now on to more important matters. Who's gonna fess up and post a pic or illustration on the new iMac. We're about 3 weeks away! A.I.?
not having access to the source code myself, are there any clues in the source to indicate what kind of hardware this is dealing with?
Not really. Most of it deals with the thermal aspects, which are vague at best.
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Originally posted by ruud
How cone those two new ones have the label as "thermal profile" unlike the others, waht does thermal profile mean?
A thermal profile is a group of settings for things like fan speed, sensor IDs and the like. Each machine has one. The PowerMac8,1 and PowerMac9,1 kexts for these use the SMU_Neo2 platform plugin.
OK, now on to more important matters. Who's gonna fess up and post a pic or illustration on the new iMac. We're about 3 weeks away! A.I.?
Never did see that scribbled-on napkin describing the new iMac they supposedly have. Rats.
The weird thing about that TS article on constraints is that even the dual 1.8 and 2.0 PowerMacs are lean. These are 130nm process chips. According to TS, ...supply of dual-1.8GHz Power Mac G5 units has been extremely constrained since the product first started shipping. and Privately, sources say, Apple is faulting continued problems with IBM's manufacturing for the delays.
I have my mind set on getting a powerbook. but when?
Now.
Let's get a little realists here. The Powerbooks are not going to be updated before this year's end, November at the earliest I would say. If you are willing to wait until then and get the latest model, good. But remember, it is not going to be a G5. Not then, and not for a while yet.
Word on the street is that people have started receiving 1.8 & 2 GHZ PowerMacs with 970FX chips in them. I think Apple has transitioned the whole product line to the 90nm 970FX product.
Word on the street is that people have started receiving 1.8 & 2 GHZ PowerMacs with 970FX chips in them. I think Apple has transitioned the whole product line to the 90nm 970FX product.
There also appears to be some internal optimism that the computer company will be able to deploy a G5 PowerBook before a G4 revision is warranted. However, this seems increasingly unlikely given IBM's continuous G5 manufacturing problems.
That was reported on Apple Insider July 27th, corresponding to the newly released ATI Mobility Radeon 9800. Two weeks later, August 9th, new PowerBook model numbers appear with 10.3.5.
When the Power Mac 8,1 model appeared with 10.3.4, most of us speculated correctly that it was the new iMac and it was to have the G5. I mean what else could it be? As it turned out, it is the new iMac and it will have a G5. Now a new release and the latest semi-admission via the plist file, I think it's easy to draw conclusions. I mean why include them if these new models aren't ready for release? We knew Apple was ready with the new iMac and its G5 processor, but as it turns out IBM was having troubles making the G5. I think something big is brewing.
That was reported on Apple Insider July 27th, corresponding to the newly released ATI Mobility Radeon 9800. Two weeks later, August 9th, new PowerBook model numbers appear with 10.3.5.
When the Power Mac 8,1 model appeared with 10.3.4, most of us speculated correctly that it was the new iMac and it was to have the G5. I mean what else could it be? As it turned out, it is the new iMac and it will have a G5. Now a new release and the latest semi-admission via the plist file, I think it's easy to draw conclusions. I mean why include them if these new models aren't ready for release? We knew Apple was ready with the new iMac and its G5 processor, but as it turns out IBM was having troubles making the G5. I think something big is brewing.
Are we talking about IBM-G5 or Freescale-whatever based Powerbooks here?
IBM PowerPC 970fx with PowerTune. SMU_Neo2 is the name for that. It is in all the systems referenced in the initial post (new iMac, new PowerMac, new PowerBooks?)
Yeah, but look at the iBook levels! both the 12" and 14" seem to be in much shorter supply. I think all of these levels together is a good indication that PowerBooks are on their way. iBooks seem to be nearly gone, indicating an upgrade, but there isn't too much room (spec wise) to upgrade the iBooks without upgrading the PowerBooks.
Yeah mostly the 12-inch model on both PowerBooks and iBooks (even noted by Think Secret). I wonder if the new PowerBook models represent a new version of the 12-inch iBook and PowerBook - maybe a widescreen version? I mean there have been rumors of a thinner 12-inch PowerBook for months on end.
I wonder if the new PowerBook models represent a new version of the 12-inch iBook and PowerBook - maybe a widescreen version? I mean there have been rumors of a thinner 12-inch PowerBook for months on end.
Currently, PowerBook5,x is the 15" and 17" models while the 12" PowerBook and latest iBooks are PowerBook6,x. I would determine the PowerBook7,1 and PowerBook7,2 to be references to the high-end models (15" and 17").
I think the PowerBook 7,1 is with a normal G4 and the 7,2 for an Dual Core PowerBook G4. Apple will use this processor as long as IBM can't shup enough G5 processors. The PowerMac 7,3 is for the new dual core G4 eMac. That will be the last generation eMac as we know. Probably the iMac and eMac will be the same models, but an affordable iMac then for $ 699,- and the high-end for $ 2699,-.
I think the PowerBook 7,1 is with a normal G4 and the 7,2 for an Dual Core PowerBook G4. Apple will use this processor as long as IBM can't shup enough G5 processors. The PowerMac 7,3 is for the new dual core G4 eMac. That will be the last generation eMac as we know. Probably the iMac and eMac will be the same models, but an affordable iMac then for $ 699,- and the high-end for $ 2699,-.
Umm...Dual Core G4s from Freescale won't be in production until mid to late *next* year and Rhumgod already mentioned that the 7,1 and 7,2 are SMU_Neo2...which are 970fx.
So, no...you *don't* think the PB 7,1 and 7,2 are G4s.
I think the PowerBook 7,1 is with a normal G4 and the 7,2 for an Dual Core PowerBook G4. Apple will use this processor as long as IBM can't shup enough G5 processors. The PowerMac 7,3 is for the new dual core G4 eMac. That will be the last generation eMac as we know. Probably the iMac and eMac will be the same models, but an affordable iMac then for $ 699,- and the high-end for $ 2699,-.
What kim kap sol said, and the PowerMac7,3 is the latest dual G5 (2.5 liquid cooled). Find the info here.
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OK, now on to more important matters. Who's gonna fess up and post a pic or illustration on the new iMac. We're about 3 weeks away! A.I.?
Originally posted by ruud
not having access to the source code myself, are there any clues in the source to indicate what kind of hardware this is dealing with?
Not really. Most of it deals with the thermal aspects, which are vague at best.
Originally posted by ruud
How cone those two new ones have the label as "thermal profile" unlike the others, waht does thermal profile mean?
A thermal profile is a group of settings for things like fan speed, sensor IDs and the like. Each machine has one. The PowerMac8,1 and PowerMac9,1 kexts for these use the SMU_Neo2 platform plugin.
Originally posted by MacsRGood4U
OK, now on to more important matters. Who's gonna fess up and post a pic or illustration on the new iMac. We're about 3 weeks away! A.I.?
Never did see that scribbled-on napkin describing the new iMac they supposedly have. Rats.
The weird thing about that TS article on constraints is that even the dual 1.8 and 2.0 PowerMacs are lean. These are 130nm process chips. According to TS, ...supply of dual-1.8GHz Power Mac G5 units has been extremely constrained since the product first started shipping. and Privately, sources say, Apple is faulting continued problems with IBM's manufacturing for the delays.
I wonder what the true story is.
Originally posted by stevegongrui
I have my mind set on getting a powerbook. but when?
Now.
Let's get a little realists here. The Powerbooks are not going to be updated before this year's end, November at the earliest I would say. If you are willing to wait until then and get the latest model, good. But remember, it is not going to be a G5. Not then, and not for a while yet.
Originally posted by stevegongrui
I havea student discount, and if I add in bluetooth and wireless for the iBook, it isn't that much less than the 12 inch powerbook.
I have my mind set on getting a powerbook. but when?
For school? Now. Why wait. You can always eBay the 12-incher if something better comes along in 6 months to a year.
I usually keep mine for 8-12 months, and then upgrade.
Originally posted by CodeWarrior
Word on the street is that people have started receiving 1.8 & 2 GHZ PowerMacs with 970FX chips in them. I think Apple has transitioned the whole product line to the 90nm 970FX product.
That would certainly explain the delays.
Originally posted by AppleInsider
There also appears to be some internal optimism that the computer company will be able to deploy a G5 PowerBook before a G4 revision is warranted. However, this seems increasingly unlikely given IBM's continuous G5 manufacturing problems.
That was reported on Apple Insider July 27th, corresponding to the newly released ATI Mobility Radeon 9800. Two weeks later, August 9th, new PowerBook model numbers appear with 10.3.5.
When the Power Mac 8,1 model appeared with 10.3.4, most of us speculated correctly that it was the new iMac and it was to have the G5. I mean what else could it be? As it turned out, it is the new iMac and it will have a G5. Now a new release and the latest semi-admission via the plist file, I think it's easy to draw conclusions. I mean why include them if these new models aren't ready for release? We knew Apple was ready with the new iMac and its G5 processor, but as it turns out IBM was having troubles making the G5. I think something big is brewing.
Originally posted by DHagan4755
That was reported on Apple Insider July 27th, corresponding to the newly released ATI Mobility Radeon 9800. Two weeks later, August 9th, new PowerBook model numbers appear with 10.3.5.
When the Power Mac 8,1 model appeared with 10.3.4, most of us speculated correctly that it was the new iMac and it was to have the G5. I mean what else could it be? As it turned out, it is the new iMac and it will have a G5. Now a new release and the latest semi-admission via the plist file, I think it's easy to draw conclusions. I mean why include them if these new models aren't ready for release? We knew Apple was ready with the new iMac and its G5 processor, but as it turns out IBM was having troubles making the G5. I think something big is brewing.
Even IBM said it will work comfortably with PowerTune.
Originally posted by PB
\\Let's get a little realists here. The Powerbooks are not going to be updated before this year's end, November at the earliest I would say.
They could announce them at Mac Expo and say "shipping in October" or something like that. That's usually the case with any major new Mac product.
Originally posted by DHagan4755
They could announce them at Mac Expo and say "shipping in October" or something like that. That's usually the case with any major new Mac product.
Are we talking about IBM-G5 or Freescale-whatever based Powerbooks here?
Originally posted by PB
Are we talking about IBM-G5 or Freescale-whatever based Powerbooks here?
Pick you choice. This is pure speculation of course!
Originally posted by PB
Are we talking about IBM-G5 or Freescale-whatever based Powerbooks here?
IBM PowerPC 970fx with PowerTune. SMU_Neo2 is the name for that. It is in all the systems referenced in the initial post (new iMac, new PowerMac, new PowerBooks?)
http://www.macprices.com/g4tracker.shtml
Originally posted by Domino
Powerbook inventory thinning out? Apple clearing the channel for new models?
http://www.macprices.com/g4tracker.shtml
Yeah, but look at the iBook levels! both the 12" and 14" seem to be in much shorter supply. I think all of these levels together is a good indication that PowerBooks are on their way. iBooks seem to be nearly gone, indicating an upgrade, but there isn't too much room (spec wise) to upgrade the iBooks without upgrading the PowerBooks.
just my thoughts...
Originally posted by DHagan4755
I wonder if the new PowerBook models represent a new version of the 12-inch iBook and PowerBook - maybe a widescreen version? I mean there have been rumors of a thinner 12-inch PowerBook for months on end.
Currently, PowerBook5,x is the 15" and 17" models while the 12" PowerBook and latest iBooks are PowerBook6,x. I would determine the PowerBook7,1 and PowerBook7,2 to be references to the high-end models (15" and 17").
Originally posted by MysteryQuest
I think the PowerBook 7,1 is with a normal G4 and the 7,2 for an Dual Core PowerBook G4. Apple will use this processor as long as IBM can't shup enough G5 processors. The PowerMac 7,3 is for the new dual core G4 eMac. That will be the last generation eMac as we know. Probably the iMac and eMac will be the same models, but an affordable iMac then for $ 699,- and the high-end for $ 2699,-.
Umm...Dual Core G4s from Freescale won't be in production until mid to late *next* year and Rhumgod already mentioned that the 7,1 and 7,2 are SMU_Neo2...which are 970fx.
So, no...you *don't* think the PB 7,1 and 7,2 are G4s.
Originally posted by MysteryQuest
I think the PowerBook 7,1 is with a normal G4 and the 7,2 for an Dual Core PowerBook G4. Apple will use this processor as long as IBM can't shup enough G5 processors. The PowerMac 7,3 is for the new dual core G4 eMac. That will be the last generation eMac as we know. Probably the iMac and eMac will be the same models, but an affordable iMac then for $ 699,- and the high-end for $ 2699,-.
What kim kap sol said, and the PowerMac7,3 is the latest dual G5 (2.5 liquid cooled). Find the info here.