Please help; iBook or not??
The time has come. Mr. Gates shall no longer have control over my desktop. Instead, mr. Jobs will have the pleasure. Now, as a DOS/Windows user since 1987, I really need advice on which machine to buy; the iBook, or the new iMac?? Anything other than the two are out of my pricerange (all financed by the sale of my current computer), so even though I really would like a PowerBook, it will never happen. I would very much like my machine to be portable, and had actually settled on the iBook with the combo-drive. But now I've been browsing around these forums, becoming more and more aware of the fact that G3 processors really can't handle MacOS X that well. Some say they work fine, others say they don't. What to believe??
The machine will mostly be used for music, photo and perhaps a little DV, but no games or anything. Is it utopia for me to want an iBook that perform well with MacOS X??
I can't wait to get feedback on this, as I would like to become a Mac-user very, very soon...
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The machine will mostly be used for music, photo and perhaps a little DV, but no games or anything. Is it utopia for me to want an iBook that perform well with MacOS X??
I can't wait to get feedback on this, as I would like to become a Mac-user very, very soon...
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But go check them out in Officeline at Åboulevarden 15. they have the iBook on display.
And one thing to remember: The iBook is here now. We won´t get the iMac in any form the first one and a half month. And if you act quick on monday morning you can buy iBooks on sale at Officeline and most other online stores here. They start at 8995 kr plus VAT for the 500 Mhz (the one you shouldn´t buy but). Check <a href="http://www.mediamac.dk" target="_blank">www.mediamac.dk</a> for more info.
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Adam
The iBook is great for the type of stuff you said you need to do and works fine with OS X, but would be even better with the G4 and extra power of the new iMac.
Remember, transporting the iMac is not difficult... but if you actually have to TRAVEL... then get an iBook (12 or 14inch)
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I really appreciate your answers, guys, and if you have more to say, don't hesitate to do so. Thx for now...
From what you described, it sounds you really want a mobile solution. I would recomend a 12.1" Combo with Airport plus at least an extra 128MB ram (256 tot)... and you will be set. If you need bigger screen to view, hook up to a monitor, and you're off!
I really recommend the iBook, its really slim and small. The only "but" is the ram, you really should add more.
The new iMac is a great choise to, now when it has a G4, but if you aint gonna to play games and the DV you are gonna do aint to advanced (like rendering big movies many times) i would say the iBook, portable computers are a joy
Edit: A bunch of typos, im really tierd
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<strong>I bought a iBook 600Mhz with DVD</strong><hr></blockquote>
This is the way to go. Im very angry @ apple for nog providing a 600MHz DVD iBook anymore... the combodrive for the 12.1 incher is only 4x VERY SLOW even the 14incher is only 8x. I'd rather get the DVD model save some $ and buy an external 24X burner with the money...
Thats for sure, I got the last DVD-only model. I saved about 2500 SEK ($200 or such) when I skipped the combo. You get a 16x burner for the same amount of money, sure its external but its not really a problem if you dont have to burn CDs "on the road".
I dont like the idea that you have to buy a burner with your new computer even if you dont want it and can save some money by skipping it (and buy extra ram for it).
If youre lucky maybe someone still have the DVD only model in stock.
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This is the way to go. Im very angry @ apple for nog providing a 600MHz DVD iBook anymore... the combodrive for the 12.1 incher is only 4x VERY SLOW even the 14incher is only 8x. I'd rather get the DVD model save some $ and buy an external 24X burner with the money...</strong><hr></blockquote>
But for the same price as the DVD model was you can get a Combo so you have the DVD and still get an external 24x burner.
I bought my DVD (only) 600Mhz iBook for $2000 CDN.
Not a bad deal
and that's what you should ask yourself too...
do you want/need portability over desktop power? if not, then you cannot go wrong with the imac. if so, then you'll be damn happy with the ibook, just like many of the people here.
trust us..we own ibooks
I can't help it; I'm going for the iBook!! It's soooooooooooooooooo cute!!
It'll still be a couple of weeks before I get it, but I'm looking so much forward to using OS X... I'm scouring the net for screenshots of it, but I'm not finding that many... any of you guys know where to find them?? My god, I just can't wait!! Only trouble is, I'm just gonna buy an iPod, an iMac later, and tons of other stuff, just because it's so cool... guess that comes with being an Apple-addict, huh??
Btw, I work with selling Wintel hardware (in a very Mac-unfriendly store... VERY!!) and I'm trying to convince everyone that Macs are WAAAAY cooler... and they're starting to believe me, thanks to the new iMac, the iBook and, very much, OS X...
Thanks again for your help, guys... appreciate it.
It works good enough and im pretty sure that OSX will get a couple of speed bumps.
Oh, btw.. I love when installers only run in classic, even when the software they are about to install is for OSX.. mm!
Don't want to ruin anything for you, i have a ibook500DVD myself, and love it. But my 450 Cube is WAY faster... And the new imac... well it starts at 700 mhz... Its a machine made for OSX.
<img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" /> Hard call... if you ain't gonna WORK seriously on the machine. the ibook will be fine.
At least compared to OS9, it just need a speedbump or two and it will work fine.
Apple really f****d up with the OSX realease, 10.0.4 should have been the Public Beta and the Public Beta should have been som shitty alpha or something
Today, OSX is far away from a "complete" and "final" system..
I am a wintel guy thinking about switching to OS X as well. I have been looking at the ibook and the imac as have you. My solution: I can get by with my current hardware long enough to wait for Apple's release of a G4 iBook with DVD-R. I know I will get flamed for my patience, but by then OS X will be at 10.5 and the ibook will have the guts to burn to DVD. Be patient...6 more months of wintel...small price to pay.
<strong>I can get by with my current hardware long enough to wait for Apple's release of a G4 iBook with DVD-R. I know I will get flamed for my patience, but by then OS X will be at 10.5 and the ibook will have the guts to burn to DVD. Be patient...6 more months of wintel...small price to pay.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Seriously, YakManDoo, your wait will be closer to 18 months, if not much longer. You'd be lucky to get a G4 in the iBook this year. A DVD-R in a portable, especially the consumer/low-end, is years away. The waiting game can only take you so far.
Of course, I have no doubt that you can get by with your current Wintel setup for many more years. I know plenty of people who still use Windows 95, or Mac OS 7. Why upgrade if your system fulfills your needs. But I wouldn't be caught dead using those OSs on my main machine (it's a different story on my collection of old PowerBooks).
Escher
<strong>My 2 cents:
I am a wintel guy thinking about switching to OS X as well. I have been looking at the ibook and the imac as have you. My solution: I can get by with my current hardware long enough to wait for Apple's release of a G4 iBook with DVD-R. I know I will get flamed for my patience, but by then OS X will be at 10.5 and the ibook will have the guts to burn to DVD. Be patient...6 more months of wintel...small price to pay.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Seriously, if you're waiting for DVD-R on an iBook you'll be waiting well over a year. Do you really need a laptop? If not then go for an iMac.