could you answer those few questions asked many times in this thread, so then we might be able to help a little bit more, can you connect directly to web without the router with any of your computers? who owns the router? can you login to the router( http://192.168.1.1/ )? is the ip address that you get connecting directly to isp same that the router gets when connecting to isp?
the whole reason i tried to go wireless in the first place was because my mac is nowhere near the PC which has the cable modem and wiring installed by it. i drilled a damn hole in the wall to connect it through there and it still wont connect to the internet.
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can you connect directly to web without the router with any of your computers?
Actually , your original post never says that you use cable, and when you finally said you tried cable it didn't sound like you really tried, or i'm just illiterate which is also possible sorry for that, but if your router got totally different looking wan address than your machine when directly connecting, theres your problem, and thats propably because your wan settings are incorrect. try playing around with them.
i've already made a post before regarding this, and i clearly stated in this one that i couldnt connect wireless or wired (built in ethernet).
you're saying that the router and IP address should both be the same? the mac automatically gets IP address, subnet mask, and router. those looked fine to me when compared with stuff online i looked up. see people are here tellin me i must be doing somethin wrong, if the wan settings are incorrect then it has to be configured wrong and i didnt configure anything. the mac is simply just set to either built-in ethernet or airport (wireless), and it receives the info automatically. there isnt any tricks to it, so it should work.
no, I'm trying to tell you that your router WAN the outside address, and your computers ip address when you connect directly without router, should be quite similar, because if they aren't, there is propably something wrong. Your router has two addresses WAN (ISP side) and LAN(local). LAN address is 192.168.1.1 Behind the reuter your (LAN) ip should look something like 192.168.1.103.
Your local network is propably working ok, the problem is for some reason your router doesn't get the WAN address correctly so it can't deliver packages to ISP and that's why net doesn't work.
I am convinced that his problem is being caused by his routing table. His default route is configured to send traffic through the ppp0 interface. Here's his routing table:
is allowing him to access his router. All other internet bound traffic is being routed to the ppp0 interface and is being blacked holed. Go to your network preferences and disable all network ports with the exception of your airport card.
I am convinced that his problem is being caused by his routing table. His default route is configured to send traffic through the ppp0 interface. Here's his routing table:
This route :
192.168.1 link#4 UCS 0 0 en0
is allowing him to access his router. All other internet bound traffic is being routed to the ppp0 interface and is being blacked holed. Go to your network preferences and disable all network ports with the exception of your airport card.
Yup. That's why we told him to take the router out of the loop. He says he can't connect when the computer is connected directly to the cable modem. The only way that could happen is if the tech registered the router MAC address with the ISP.
He was asked to ping the router, and instead pinged the PC.
He owns the router and the PC, but for some reason has to "drill a hole" instead of just carrying the G4 into the room where the modem is like all the rest of us do.
I'm done. This is making Genius Bar look intimidating to new users and unless he calmly follows advice and stops with the attitude towards people who are trying to help him, I'm trashing the whole thread.
the reason a hole was drilled in the first place was so that i didnt have to set up the mac in a different room. im not tryin to move my whole computer and everything into the same room as the PC. me connecting through the wire is the exact same thing i'd be doing if i were to move my computer into the PC room, im connected to the cable modem right now.
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The only way that could happen is if the tech registered the router MAC address with the ISP.
then thats probably the case. all you need to do is say that instead of claimin im not listnin to anybody or giving any information. i've given all the info that i can/has been asked of me and have followed everyones advice who didnt just tell me oh its my fault i must have messed up everything myself and that i put the wrong settings. the settings i have have all been listed and theres nothing to mess up since the mac does it automatically. thats what i dont like, when people just come in here tryin to tell me i must be the fault. there's nothin i have done to the computer or network settings.
router pinged....
Ping has started ...
PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=3.314 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.827 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.799 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.795 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.833 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=0.801 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=0.81 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=0.894 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=0.805 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=0.783 ms
--- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 0.783/1.066/3.314 ms
is that not correct or somethin? i dont know how im supposed to ping the router then.
if apple, linksys, our ISP, computer tech people have told me everything is set perfect and should be working.....why am i to blame???
i got it working now......had to mess with some scripts but it seems to be good now.
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default nas24.cleveland1.l UGSc 655 142 ppp0
nas24.cleveland1.l aca31bd0.ipt.aol.c UH 656 0 ppp0
localhost localhost UH 9 8300 lo0
169.254 link#4 UCS 0 0 en0
192.168.1 link#4 UCS 0 0 en0
192.168.1.103 localhost UHS 0 22 lo0
192.168.1.104 localhost UHS 0 2 lo0
Your default route doesn't look right. It should point to your wireless basestation. Do you have any dialup software installed?
You are wasting a lot of people's time.
can you connect directly to web without the router with any of your computers?
no
who owns the router?
i do
can you login to the router( http://192.168.1.1/ )?
yes
is the ip address that you get connecting directly to isp same that the router gets when connecting to isp?
no
Do you have any dialup software installed?
i have AOL installed. i dont think it makes a difference though, i removed it once and the net still didnt work.
you're saying that the router and IP address should both be the same? the mac automatically gets IP address, subnet mask, and router. those looked fine to me when compared with stuff online i looked up. see people are here tellin me i must be doing somethin wrong, if the wan settings are incorrect then it has to be configured wrong and i didnt configure anything. the mac is simply just set to either built-in ethernet or airport (wireless), and it receives the info automatically. there isnt any tricks to it, so it should work.
Your local network is propably working ok, the problem is for some reason your router doesn't get the WAN address correctly so it can't deliver packages to ISP and that's why net doesn't work.
default nas24.cleveland1.l UGSc 655 142 ppp0
nas24.cleveland1.l aca31bd0.ipt.aol.c UH 656 0 ppp0
localhost localhost UH 9 8300 lo0
169.254 link#4 UCS 0 0 en0
192.168.1 link#4 UCS 0 0 en0
192.168.1.103 localhost UHS 0 22 lo0
192.168.1.104 localhost UHS 0 2 lo0
This route :
192.168.1 link#4 UCS 0 0 en0
is allowing him to access his router. All other internet bound traffic is being routed to the ppp0 interface and is being blacked holed. Go to your network preferences and disable all network ports with the exception of your airport card.
I have to clone the MAC address of the original computer (which was set-up when the computer was registered the first time) using the wireless router.
This means that the router must allow MAC cloning. I had to buy a Belkin router because my Linksys (WAG) didn't.
i tried disabling the ports in network preferences and it didnt anything. tried putting it on just airport and then just built-in ethernet.
Originally posted by ThinkingDifferent
I am convinced that his problem is being caused by his routing table. His default route is configured to send traffic through the ppp0 interface. Here's his routing table:
This route :
192.168.1 link#4 UCS 0 0 en0
is allowing him to access his router. All other internet bound traffic is being routed to the ppp0 interface and is being blacked holed. Go to your network preferences and disable all network ports with the exception of your airport card.
Yup. That's why we told him to take the router out of the loop. He says he can't connect when the computer is connected directly to the cable modem. The only way that could happen is if the tech registered the router MAC address with the ISP.
He was asked to ping the router, and instead pinged the PC.
He owns the router and the PC, but for some reason has to "drill a hole" instead of just carrying the G4 into the room where the modem is like all the rest of us do.
I'm done. This is making Genius Bar look intimidating to new users and unless he calmly follows advice and stops with the attitude towards people who are trying to help him, I'm trashing the whole thread.
The only way that could happen is if the tech registered the router MAC address with the ISP.
then thats probably the case. all you need to do is say that instead of claimin im not listnin to anybody or giving any information. i've given all the info that i can/has been asked of me and have followed everyones advice who didnt just tell me oh its my fault i must have messed up everything myself and that i put the wrong settings. the settings i have have all been listed and theres nothing to mess up since the mac does it automatically. thats what i dont like, when people just come in here tryin to tell me i must be the fault. there's nothin i have done to the computer or network settings.
router pinged....
Ping has started ...
PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=3.314 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.827 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.799 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.795 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.833 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=0.801 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=0.81 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=0.894 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=0.805 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=0.783 ms
--- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 0.783/1.066/3.314 ms
is that not correct or somethin? i dont know how im supposed to ping the router then.
if apple, linksys, our ISP, computer tech people have told me everything is set perfect and should be working.....why am i to blame???
i got it working now......had to mess with some scripts but it seems to be good now.