Does anyone think that the last speed bump was to clear out some stock of the outdated logic board PowerMacs? Until, the dual core comes out? I believe they used to introduce new PowerMacs in August too...instead of the 1 year to update that seems currently what has been happening.
Now Appleinsider has sources (who have sources...) saying new PMs "within 2 weeks." Of course we heard positive rumblings before Paris. But here's hoping ... and perhaps enough time has elapsed that dual-core PMs are a real possibility.
i'll believe it when we see em! I wonder if IBM has delayed them on purpose... to teach steve a lesson. I'm hoping for next tuesday... but i've gotten my hopes up before. I'm betting they will be sporting the new ATI cards.
i'll believe it when we see em! I wonder if IBM has delayed them on purpose... to teach steve a lesson. I'm hoping for next tuesday... but i've gotten my hopes up before. I'm betting they will be sporting the new ATI cards.
I agree with your pessimism but I'm hoping...
What ATI cards do you mean? I'm debating what card (not the default) for intensive video work (posting elsewhere on that).
When i orderd my Dual 2Ghz G5 PowerMac on 22th of September, my on or before date was "27/09/2005", last thursday i called apple to ask where's my powermac, it had been delayed until "03/10/2005", when I asked why (2or3times) they saide, they haven't had any G5 processors in stock until "01/10/2005" ...
So i'm waiting, and hoping for a dual core dual g5
Thanks for the info. I hope these new cards are supported early, at least as a BTO, unlike the X850 which took awhile to show up on the apple store (and presumably to work seamlessly with the OS).
Thanks for the info. I hope these new cards are supported early, at least as a BTO, unlike the X850 which took awhile to show up on the apple store (and presumably to work seamlessly with the OS).
Most ATI video cards would work out of the box without any problems; the driver is probably very generic, the only downside, you might have to wait, in the case of DIY upgrades in regards to seeing an updated driver coming with the next update released.
With that being said, the best option I hope Apple adopts is the PCIe 2.0 which will provide enough bandwidth to fly a Antanov through.
When i orderd my Dual 2Ghz G5 PowerMac on 22th of September, my on or before date was "27/09/2005", last thursday i called apple to ask where's my powermac, it had been delayed until "03/10/2005", when I asked why (2or3times) they saide, they haven't had any G5 processors in stock until "01/10/2005" ...
So i'm waiting, and hoping for a dual core dual g5
I order mine on the 17th and it shipped in 6 days (custom configuration Dual 2GHz)
I got tired of waiting. BTW loving the dually. sooooo fast. nothing can stop this bad boy. Should carry me through until second generation intel powermacs
Well, I highly doubt that we will have an update in a few hrs. my time.... What are chances of the future? I sure hope everything doesn't dry up like everyones posting.... I was mad that it's taken so long...now I'm just going along for the ride.........weeeeeeeeeeeeee......
Huh? You haven't heard about the Oct 12th event? Sounds like a dual core announcement getting past 3 ghz to me.
Not likely! I bet on the previous specs that have floated around in the forums , like dual core 2.5 at the top end or whatever thehigh end speed was..Ill be REALLY surprised if IBM pulls a 3ghz + dual core chip outta their asses, to put into Apples.
the promo with the curtains could be go either way it could mean:
last curtain call for the PM and the PB
or
could mean video ipod....
very smart!
hopefully it will be for PM and PB....it is to close to the nano intro and i'd be ticked if i had spent money for a nano and not something new w/video!
Not likely! I bet on the previous specs that have floated around in the forums , like dual core 2.5 at the top end or whatever thehigh end speed was..Ill be REALLY surprised if IBM pulls a 3ghz + dual core chip outta their asses, to put into Apples.
I think it's unlikely myself but Apple has had faster that advertised chips before, I believe the 2.7 GHz chips were in the PowerMacs before IBM officially documented them.
...I believe the 2.7 GHz chips were in the PowerMacs before IBM officially documented them.
Yes, very often in the past (not to say this is the rule), first Apple got the chips and then, some weeks later, Freescale/IBM added to the catalog the high-end chips going to Apple. But I don't believe that there will be G5 beyond the 3 GHz mark.
But I don't believe that there will be G5 beyond the 3 GHz mark.
Well, this is rumor central, but ...
Assuming Oct 12 is a PM/PB announcement instead of (e.g.) a video iPod, what is the likely configuration? In particular:
PCI Express or no?
Dual-core or dual-dual core, and at what speed?
New graphics boards? ATI Radeon x1300/1600/1800?
It would seem a significant step up for Apple to put out dual-dual core machines for not a lot more money. This suggest, to me, that (1) only highest-end gets 4x processors, or (2) there are dual-dual core even in the "mid-range" PM, but at a slower processor speed. After all, my understanding is Intel/AMD (unsure of details here) is putting out dual-core, but at lower clock speeds.
I'm counting on PCI-e...
And one would hope that the new Radeon cards would be available at least as a BTO. I understand the x1300 and x1800 are shipping, with the x1600 delayed?
Assuming Oct 12 is a PM/PB announcement instead of (e.g.) a video iPod, what is the likely configuration? In particular:
PCI Express or no?
Dual-core or dual-dual core, and at what speed?
New graphics boards? ATI Radeon x1300/1600/1800?
My prediction, assuming it is a PM/PB announcement:
1x2.2 GHz 970mp
PCIe, PCI
4 slot DDR2-533
ATI Radeon X600 or Nvidia equivalent
$1999
1x2.5 GHz 970mp
PCIe, PCI-X
8 slot DDR2-667
Radeon X600 or Nvidia equivalent
$2499
2x2.5 GHz 970mp
PCIe, PCI-X
8 slot DDR2-667
Radeon X700 or Nvidia equivalent
$2999
Options:
$400+ video card options
PCI-X FiberChannel, G-Ethernet cards
Quote:
It would seem a significant step up for Apple to put out dual-dual core machines for not a lot more money. This suggest, to me, that (1) only highest-end gets 4x processors, or (2) there are dual-dual core even in the "mid-range" PM, but at a slower processor speed.
4-way systems are specialist machines. Very few people would require them. So, by that alone, I think there will only be 1 dual-dual system.
I would be very interested to see a 1.8+ GHz Powerbook G5 system, but I'm doubting it. Maybe they'll pull it out of their hat a "year" late. Who knows.
"[B]My prediction, assuming it is a PM/PB announcement:
1x2.2 GHz 970mp
PCIe, PCI
4 slot DDR2-533
ATI Radeon X600 or Nvidia equivalent
$1999
1x2.5 GHz 970mp
PCIe, PCI-X
8 slot DDR2-667
Radeon X600 or Nvidia equivalent
$2499
2x2.5 GHz 970mp
PCIe, PCI-X
8 slot DDR2-667
Radeon X700 or Nvidia equivalent
$2999
Options:
$400+ video card options
PCI-X FiberChannel, G-Ethernet cards
4-way systems are specialist machines. Very few people would require them. So, by that alone, I think there will only be 1 dual-dual system."
On this Daystar of the modern day, how well will the Mac OS as it is now be able to take advantage of the hoped for 4 cpus?
Would the 4 cpu, or 2 dual core cpu be usable by such folks as use photoshop, or 3D programmes, or final cut pro, or avid software? That is, must the software programmers for the 3rd party software make changes for such modern type Daystars?
Or would the Mac OS make use such that various programmes would be advantaged?
I know there are folks in the sciences who have sought for the quad machines, I think some are using another unix as well as the Mac OS. There has been request for other graphics cards as well as the Radeon or the NVidia, too. How likely that is to happen I would not know, but there certainly are people who could use higher end graphics.
I reckon this question could be filed under an OS question, but since it directly would be part of future hardware, it seemed a good place to put it.
Comments
Originally posted by namachtag
Does anyone think that the last speed bump was to clear out some stock of the outdated logic board PowerMacs? Until, the dual core comes out? I believe they used to introduce new PowerMacs in August too...instead of the 1 year to update that seems currently what has been happening.
Any thoughts?
g
probably. that dual core is gonna be pretty cool.
peace
Originally posted by aidanp
probably. that dual core is gonna be pretty cool.
And it should not be far away. Here is the recent Genesi announcement.
Originally posted by PB
And it should not be far away. Here is the recent Genesi announcement.
Now Appleinsider has sources (who have sources...) saying new PMs "within 2 weeks." Of course we heard positive rumblings before Paris. But here's hoping ... and perhaps enough time has elapsed that dual-core PMs are a real possibility.
Originally posted by namachtag
i'll believe it when we see em! I wonder if IBM has delayed them on purpose... to teach steve a lesson. I'm hoping for next tuesday... but i've gotten my hopes up before. I'm betting they will be sporting the new ATI cards.
I agree with your pessimism but I'm hoping...
What ATI cards do you mean? I'm debating what card (not the default) for intensive video work (posting elsewhere on that).
Originally posted by bjewett
What ATI cards do you mean?
Probably the Radeon X1300/X1600/X1800.
So i'm waiting, and hoping for a dual core dual g5
Originally posted by wmf
Probably the Radeon X1300/X1600/X1800.
Thanks for the info. I hope these new cards are supported early, at least as a BTO, unlike the X850 which took awhile to show up on the apple store (and presumably to work seamlessly with the OS).
Originally posted by bjewett
Thanks for the info. I hope these new cards are supported early, at least as a BTO, unlike the X850 which took awhile to show up on the apple store (and presumably to work seamlessly with the OS).
Most ATI video cards would work out of the box without any problems; the driver is probably very generic, the only downside, you might have to wait, in the case of DIY upgrades in regards to seeing an updated driver coming with the next update released.
With that being said, the best option I hope Apple adopts is the PCIe 2.0 which will provide enough bandwidth to fly a Antanov through.
Originally posted by driek
When i orderd my Dual 2Ghz G5 PowerMac on 22th of September, my on or before date was "27/09/2005", last thursday i called apple to ask where's my powermac, it had been delayed until "03/10/2005", when I asked why (2or3times) they saide, they haven't had any G5 processors in stock until "01/10/2005" ...
So i'm waiting, and hoping for a dual core dual g5
I order mine on the 17th and it shipped in 6 days (custom configuration Dual 2GHz)
I got tired of waiting. BTW loving the dually. sooooo fast. nothing can stop this bad boy. Should carry me through until second generation intel powermacs
Originally posted by namachtag
Well, I highly doubt that we will have an update in a few hrs. my time.... What are chances of the future?
It's Tuesday, and the Apple Store is still up as of afternoon, California time.
This means 6 more months of winter and untold weeks (months?) of waiting for new PMs.
Originally posted by bjewett
It's Tuesday, and the Apple Store is still up as of afternoon, California time.
This means 6 more months of winter and untold weeks (months?) of waiting for new PMs.
Huh? You haven't heard about the Oct 12th event? Sounds like a dual core announcement getting past 3 ghz to me.
Originally posted by KidRed
Huh? You haven't heard about the Oct 12th event? Sounds like a dual core announcement getting past 3 ghz to me.
Not likely! I bet on the previous specs that have floated around in the forums , like dual core 2.5 at the top end or whatever thehigh end speed was..Ill be REALLY surprised if IBM pulls a 3ghz + dual core chip outta their asses, to put into Apples.
last curtain call for the PM and the PB
or
could mean video ipod....
very smart!
hopefully it will be for PM and PB....it is to close to the nano intro and i'd be ticked if i had spent money for a nano and not something new w/video!
Originally posted by hypoluxa
Not likely! I bet on the previous specs that have floated around in the forums , like dual core 2.5 at the top end or whatever thehigh end speed was..Ill be REALLY surprised if IBM pulls a 3ghz + dual core chip outta their asses, to put into Apples.
I think it's unlikely myself but Apple has had faster that advertised chips before, I believe the 2.7 GHz chips were in the PowerMacs before IBM officially documented them.
Originally posted by jherrling
...I believe the 2.7 GHz chips were in the PowerMacs before IBM officially documented them.
Yes, very often in the past (not to say this is the rule), first Apple got the chips and then, some weeks later, Freescale/IBM added to the catalog the high-end chips going to Apple. But I don't believe that there will be G5 beyond the 3 GHz mark.
Originally posted by PB
But I don't believe that there will be G5 beyond the 3 GHz mark.
Well, this is rumor central, but ...
Assuming Oct 12 is a PM/PB announcement instead of (e.g.) a video iPod, what is the likely configuration? In particular:
PCI Express or no?
Dual-core or dual-dual core, and at what speed?
New graphics boards? ATI Radeon x1300/1600/1800?
It would seem a significant step up for Apple to put out dual-dual core machines for not a lot more money. This suggest, to me, that (1) only highest-end gets 4x processors, or (2) there are dual-dual core even in the "mid-range" PM, but at a slower processor speed. After all, my understanding is Intel/AMD (unsure of details here) is putting out dual-core, but at lower clock speeds.
I'm counting on PCI-e...
And one would hope that the new Radeon cards would be available at least as a BTO. I understand the x1300 and x1800 are shipping, with the x1600 delayed?
Originally posted by bjewett
Assuming Oct 12 is a PM/PB announcement instead of (e.g.) a video iPod, what is the likely configuration? In particular:
PCI Express or no?
Dual-core or dual-dual core, and at what speed?
New graphics boards? ATI Radeon x1300/1600/1800?
My prediction, assuming it is a PM/PB announcement:
1x2.2 GHz 970mp
PCIe, PCI
4 slot DDR2-533
ATI Radeon X600 or Nvidia equivalent
$1999
1x2.5 GHz 970mp
PCIe, PCI-X
8 slot DDR2-667
Radeon X600 or Nvidia equivalent
$2499
2x2.5 GHz 970mp
PCIe, PCI-X
8 slot DDR2-667
Radeon X700 or Nvidia equivalent
$2999
Options:
$400+ video card options
PCI-X FiberChannel, G-Ethernet cards
It would seem a significant step up for Apple to put out dual-dual core machines for not a lot more money. This suggest, to me, that (1) only highest-end gets 4x processors, or (2) there are dual-dual core even in the "mid-range" PM, but at a slower processor speed.
4-way systems are specialist machines. Very few people would require them. So, by that alone, I think there will only be 1 dual-dual system.
I would be very interested to see a 1.8+ GHz Powerbook G5 system, but I'm doubting it. Maybe they'll pull it out of their hat a "year" late. Who knows.
"[B]My prediction, assuming it is a PM/PB announcement:
1x2.2 GHz 970mp
PCIe, PCI
4 slot DDR2-533
ATI Radeon X600 or Nvidia equivalent
$1999
1x2.5 GHz 970mp
PCIe, PCI-X
8 slot DDR2-667
Radeon X600 or Nvidia equivalent
$2499
2x2.5 GHz 970mp
PCIe, PCI-X
8 slot DDR2-667
Radeon X700 or Nvidia equivalent
$2999
Options:
$400+ video card options
PCI-X FiberChannel, G-Ethernet cards
4-way systems are specialist machines. Very few people would require them. So, by that alone, I think there will only be 1 dual-dual system."
On this Daystar of the modern day, how well will the Mac OS as it is now be able to take advantage of the hoped for 4 cpus?
Would the 4 cpu, or 2 dual core cpu be usable by such folks as use photoshop, or 3D programmes, or final cut pro, or avid software? That is, must the software programmers for the 3rd party software make changes for such modern type Daystars?
Or would the Mac OS make use such that various programmes would be advantaged?
I know there are folks in the sciences who have sought for the quad machines, I think some are using another unix as well as the Mac OS. There has been request for other graphics cards as well as the Radeon or the NVidia, too. How likely that is to happen I would not know, but there certainly are people who could use higher end graphics.
I reckon this question could be filed under an OS question, but since it directly would be part of future hardware, it seemed a good place to put it.