have you tried it? and to save the cost of parallels making a cd for me, couldn't i download then copy to a cd myself, or do you think have some "code" or drm that would prevent this they charge $13 for the cd version (wow!!!) and do you think that for two macintels (i'm going to splurge) that one copy would do. what about loading it to my firewire drive and accessing it from there??
1: Paralells is windows and linux friendly too and thus compeating with VMware, but for much less, of course this will not hit the ESX type VMWare market, but it will beat the shit out of MS VPC 2004 in Windows...and it can use linux as the host OS too...
2: Apple needs 3rd party developers to puch innovation in OSX...look at tools like Dashboard and spotlight...inspiered by 3rd parties that were widly popular throughout the platform.
of those who use parallels how much ram is needed? running both osx and parallels what would it take. i know it also depends on what programs you are running in both but i'm trying to get the minimum , and then the reasonable amount needed./ basically will 1gb work or do you need 1.5 (mbp has 512 1 dimm then i could buy 1gb stick for 85 or less) apple want OMG 500 for 2gb, shish
1: Paralells is windows and linux friendly too and thus compeating with VMware, but for much less, of course this will not hit the ESX type VMWare market, but it will beat the shit out of MS VPC 2004 in Windows...and it can use linux as the host OS too...
2: Apple needs 3rd party developers to puch innovation in OSX...look at tools like Dashboard and spotlight...inspiered by 3rd parties that were widly popular throughout the platform.
well, it seems that Apple is already endorsing Parallels. I mean, why not just say that a download of Boot Camp is required?
....because maybe they won't need to support Bootcamp????
damn skippy, and paralells is already far and away better than bootcamp: Methinks bootcamp was just a proof of concept to stir up the after market: Apple does not want to get into the wasps nest of Windows suport within virtual boxen...Virtualization isnt, has never been, and for the forseeable future doesnt need to be handled by Apple because it isnt a core competency...let Paralells and VMWare handle that; same philosiphy they used with VPC in the old days; let someone else handle that.
I think that ad is as close as we'll come to Apple officially supporting Parallels. Apples knows Parallels is good for their sales: if people have the ability to run Windows on macs, more people will buy macs for the superior hardware. but I doubt they will "buy out" Parallels. i don't think apple would be too interested in that.
Everyone misses the key selling point of Parelells to apple;
It keeps eyes in OSX; you may be using windows, but unlike bootcamp you arent rebooting into windows; so you can easily do browsing, mail, music, design...in OSX and still have quick access to that propriatery active-x database interface that happens to be "mission critical" to your job...
Greer, you make a very valid point. I bet Apple does have some interest in Parallels...I wonder if we'll see Desktop bundled w/ every intel-mac in the future.
Everyone misses the key selling point of Parelells to apple;
It keeps eyes in OSX; you may be using windows, but unlike bootcamp you arent rebooting into windows; so you can easily do browsing, mail, music, design...in OSX and still have quick access to that propriatery active-x database interface that happens to be "mission critical" to your job...
What Parallels REALLY means to Apple.... One less thing Microsoft can hold over Apples head... Some time in 2008 Microsoft Announces VirtualPC for Intel based Mac's - a collective yawn is heard...
MS has been pulling this "we just don't know how long it might take for us to get an Intel native version of VirtualPC out" crap... Now with Parallels and eventually VMware it just doesn't matter... It just doesn't matter... It just doesn't matter.... (slap)
The network adapter in Parallels is emulated, so as long as you have a functional Airport/Ethernet/Whatever in MacOS, it'll come up as a plain old 10/100 ethernet connection in Windows.
1. Run basic apps in Windows XP (ie microsoft office)
2. Run basic apps in Windows 2000
3. VPN to my office computer using PC Anywhere
4. Synchronize with Outlook and then somehow synchronize again with OSX applications, calendar, contacts etc..,
5. create a document in windows and then "drag and drop" it into OSX?
My last experience with emulation software was virtual pc which worked absolutely perfectly, until you actually tried to use it for something...anything...and then...well...not so good...
1. Run basic apps in Windows XP (ie microsoft office)
2. Run basic apps in Windows 2000
3. VPN to my office computer using PC Anywhere
Yes.
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4. Synchronize with Outlook and then somehow synchronize again with OSX applications, calendar, contacts etc..,
Too vague; specify.
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5. create a document in windows and then "drag and drop" it into OSX?
You can use Windows file sharing for this. It's fairly straightforward and works on both sides, from Finder as well as Explorer.
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My last experience with emulation software was virtual pc which worked absolutely perfectly, until you actually tried to use it for something...anything...and then...well...not so good...
Parallels doesn't quite have the polish interface-wise.
My last experience with emulation software was virtual pc which worked absolutely perfectly, until you actually tried to use it for something...anything...and then...well...not so good... [/B]
The reason Parallels allows you to do so much more then virtual PC did (at much greater speeds) is because Parallels isn't an emulation solution as VPC was, it's virtualization.
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Originally posted by NOFEER
apple should buy parallels
NOOOOO -- 2 huge reasons:
1: Paralells is windows and linux friendly too and thus compeating with VMware, but for much less, of course this will not hit the ESX type VMWare market, but it will beat the shit out of MS VPC 2004 in Windows...and it can use linux as the host OS too...
2: Apple needs 3rd party developers to puch innovation in OSX...look at tools like Dashboard and spotlight...inspiered by 3rd parties that were widly popular throughout the platform.
Originally posted by a_greer
NOOOOO -- 2 huge reasons:
1: Paralells is windows and linux friendly too and thus compeating with VMware, but for much less, of course this will not hit the ESX type VMWare market, but it will beat the shit out of MS VPC 2004 in Windows...and it can use linux as the host OS too...
2: Apple needs 3rd party developers to puch innovation in OSX...look at tools like Dashboard and spotlight...inspiered by 3rd parties that were widly popular throughout the platform.
well, it seems that Apple is already endorsing Parallels. I mean, why not just say that a download of Boot Camp is required?
Originally posted by sammick
....because maybe they won't need to support Bootcamp????
damn skippy, and paralells is already far and away better than bootcamp: Methinks bootcamp was just a proof of concept to stir up the after market: Apple does not want to get into the wasps nest of Windows suport within virtual boxen...Virtualization isnt, has never been, and for the forseeable future doesnt need to be handled by Apple because it isnt a core competency...let Paralells and VMWare handle that; same philosiphy they used with VPC in the old days; let someone else handle that.
It keeps eyes in OSX; you may be using windows, but unlike bootcamp you arent rebooting into windows; so you can easily do browsing, mail, music, design...in OSX and still have quick access to that propriatery active-x database interface that happens to be "mission critical" to your job...
Originally posted by a_greer
Everyone misses the key selling point of Parelells to apple;
It keeps eyes in OSX; you may be using windows, but unlike bootcamp you arent rebooting into windows; so you can easily do browsing, mail, music, design...in OSX and still have quick access to that propriatery active-x database interface that happens to be "mission critical" to your job...
What Parallels REALLY means to Apple.... One less thing Microsoft can hold over Apples head... Some time in 2008 Microsoft Announces VirtualPC for Intel based Mac's - a collective yawn is heard...
MS has been pulling this "we just don't know how long it might take for us to get an Intel native version of VirtualPC out" crap... Now with Parallels and eventually VMware it just doesn't matter... It just doesn't matter... It just doesn't matter.... (slap)
Wow think I just had a Meatballs flashback.
Dave
airport--ibook--mbp--parallels.
as far as your airport password, when you switch back and forth from osx and windows do you have to have the code put in under osx AND in windows??
1. Run basic apps in Windows XP (ie microsoft office)
2. Run basic apps in Windows 2000
3. VPN to my office computer using PC Anywhere
4. Synchronize with Outlook and then somehow synchronize again with OSX applications, calendar, contacts etc..,
5. create a document in windows and then "drag and drop" it into OSX?
My last experience with emulation software was virtual pc which worked absolutely perfectly, until you actually tried to use it for something...anything...and then...well...not so good...
Originally posted by AugustWest
Can I use Parallels to:
1. Run basic apps in Windows XP (ie microsoft office)
2. Run basic apps in Windows 2000
3. VPN to my office computer using PC Anywhere
Yes.
4. Synchronize with Outlook and then somehow synchronize again with OSX applications, calendar, contacts etc..,
Too vague; specify.
5. create a document in windows and then "drag and drop" it into OSX?
You can use Windows file sharing for this. It's fairly straightforward and works on both sides, from Finder as well as Explorer.
My last experience with emulation software was virtual pc which worked absolutely perfectly, until you actually tried to use it for something...anything...and then...well...not so good...
Parallels doesn't quite have the polish interface-wise.
Originally posted by AugustWest
My last experience with emulation software was virtual pc which worked absolutely perfectly, until you actually tried to use it for something...anything...and then...well...not so good... [/B]
The reason Parallels allows you to do so much more then virtual PC did (at much greater speeds) is because Parallels isn't an emulation solution as VPC was, it's virtualization.
The only thing I need a serial port for is to prgram my Universal Remote but still........
It is a pain to reboot though
I much prefer parallels using both Boot Camp and Parallels
Originally posted by sammick
My guess is that Parallels will continue to get better and that Apple will drop Boot Camp
As someone who would like to take advantage of the graphics card in another OS, I sincerely hope not.
Originally posted by sammick
My guess is that Parallels will continue to get better and that Apple will drop Boot Camp
Doubtful. What motivation do they have?