Apple rolls out Merom-based iMacs, new 24-inch model

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  • Reply 241 of 283
    tenobelltenobell Posts: 7,014member
    the funny thing about these boards are that the supposed Mac enthusiasts are arguing about things I don't see PC boards argue about. I so far haven't seen PC boards arguing about Merom vs Conroe or integrated graphics vs dedicated graphics.
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  • Reply 242 of 283
    chuckerchucker Posts: 5,089member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by aegisdesign


    Hey Gamers!...



    http://www.macsimumnews.com/index.ph...y_upgradeable/



    The 24 incher has it's GPU on a replaceable card, allegedly.



    Well, of course that would require an MXM module card (of which there are few) with an EFI firmware (of which there are even fewer).
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  • Reply 243 of 283
    backtomacbacktomac Posts: 4,579member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by TenoBell


    the funny thing about these boards are that the supposed Mac enthusiasts are arguing about things I don't see PC boards argue about. I so far haven't seen PC boards arguing about Merom vs Conroe or integrated graphics vs dedicated graphics.



    PC users have a wealth of choices, they dont' have to wonder if there will be a conroe pc, just how much it will cost.
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  • Reply 244 of 283
    tenobelltenobell Posts: 7,014member
    No I'm not talking about what goes into a PC, I'm talking about PC user comments about the current Mac line up.
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  • Reply 245 of 283
    cubitcubit Posts: 846member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by othello


    odd not to have a remote included on the 17"



    like the vesa option on the 24" -- a good telly!



    Could you give a little more detail on this one? How would that work? Simply put it up on the wall with a 9 foot cable going somewhere for power and a lead to the Cable Box?
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  • Reply 246 of 283
    cubitcubit Posts: 846member
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    Hehe, sucker.



    I think he deserves a Dell with that approach! Hard to wait a week, isn't it. I'm sure that first week of classes will be spent entirely in getting the Dell components to work with each other!
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  • Reply 247 of 283
    just ordered a 24inch.

    decided only to updgrade the graphics mainly due to cost and the fact that i have tonnes of external memory and i doubt i'll be moving a beast like this too often.

    also i can't see me pushing the processor especially hard.

    the odd handbrake import is about as tough as i will get.



    as an updgrade from a 1.33 12" powerbook this is gonna seem like greased lightning.

    i'll upgrade the ram at some point in the future (bit disappointed apple has removed the 1x1GB stick option)



    and i didn't know the new eyetv hybrid allows input.

    will be buying one of those for my (lowly) ps2.





    anyone know anything about the ease of replacing the hard-drive?



    i just read someone saying the hd was replacable...

    do they mean pulling the imac apart and removing a million screws replacable...

    ...or macbook replacable?
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  • Reply 248 of 283
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,953member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by shakerben


    anyone know anything about the ease of replacing the hard-drive?



    i just read someone saying the hd was replacable...

    do they mean pulling the imac apart and removing a million screws replacable...

    ...or macbook replacable?



    The drive is replaceable, as in, it hasn't been set in with Bakelite. To me, it looks harder to get into than the mini. I haven't tried that, so I could be wrong, but the general consensus seems to be that it's not easy to get into.
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  • Reply 249 of 283
    irelandireland Posts: 17,802member
    Newsflash!! Apple just released a 24" "BLACK" iMac





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  • Reply 250 of 283
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,953member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ireland


    Newsflash!! Apple just released a 24" "BLACK" iMac









    Trying out your Photoshop skills again?
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  • Reply 251 of 283
    Since the 24" iMac would be good 2nd tv why don't they incorparate tv tuner?

    I can just imagine one of these bad boys on my bedroom wall, surfing the net and watching tv etc. I could buy a USB based tv solution but then fixing the iMac to the wall will be a problem.



    Any suggestions anyone?
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  • Reply 252 of 283
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JeffDM


    The drive is replaceable, as in, it hasn't been set in with Bakelite. To me, it looks harder to get into than the mini. I haven't tried that, so I could be wrong, but the general consensus seems to be that it's not easy to get into.



    i know all about difficult to get into.

    i've had to replace my powerbook hard-drive once.



    now....anyone know it the cpu is still replacable?

    i would assume so since merom is a drop in replacement



    if it is i'd probably think about a processor and hd upgrade in a year or so.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jimbo123


    Since the 24" iMac would be good 2nd tv why don't they incorparate tv tuner?

    I can just imagine one of these bad boys on my bedroom wall, surfing the net and watching tv etc. I could buy a USB based tv solution but then fixing the iMac to the wall will be a problem.



    Any suggestions anyone?



    fixing it to the wall could be a problem anyway since all the usb ports are on the back.

    i know that they offer a vesa mount now and that there is some gap between the back and the wall but it doesn't sound ideal to me.



    a solution for you...?

    a very long usb cable
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  • Reply 253 of 283
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by shakerben


    i know all about difficult to get into.

    i've had to replace my powerbook hard-drive once.



    now....anyone know it the cpu is still replacable?

    i would assume so since merom is a drop in replacement



    if it is i'd probably think about a processor and hd upgrade in a year or so.







    fixing it to the wall could be a problem anyway since all the usb ports are on the back.

    i know that they offer a vesa mount now and that there is some gap between the back and the wall but it doesn't sound ideal to me.



    a solution for you...?

    a very long usb cable



    So the 24 " iMac is not a multimedia solution to me which makes me think that Apple must have a

    different solution altogether.
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  • Reply 254 of 283
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jimbo123


    Since the 24" iMac would be good 2nd tv why don't they incorparate tv tuner?

    I can just imagine one of these bad boys on my bedroom wall, surfing the net and watching tv etc. I could buy a USB based tv solution but then fixing the iMac to the wall will be a problem.



    Which TV tuner would they include? Analogue, Digital, ATSC, NTSC, PAL, HD, DVB-T, DVB-M, ....
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  • Reply 255 of 283
    chuckerchucker Posts: 5,089member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by aegisdesign


    Which TV tuner would they include? Analogue, Digital, ATSC, NTSC, PAL, HD, DVB-T, DVB-M, ....



    Indeed. (There is no DVB-M, however.) If Apple included one tuner, they'd lock out people from using it. If Apple included multiple tuners, they'd drive the price high. In either way, they'd likely also provide lower quality than possible for some people.
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  • Reply 256 of 283
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chucker


    Indeed. (There is no DVB-M, however.) If Apple included one tuner, they'd lock out people from using it. If Apple included multiple tuners, they'd drive the price high. In either way, they'd likely also provide lower quality than possible for some people.



    Yeah - it's a lot better to have a "bring your own tuner" set-up. Which is where a PCIe card slot would be great, but USB and FW400 aren't horrible.
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  • Reply 257 of 283
    dcqdcq Posts: 349member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by shakerben


    fixing it to the wall could be a problem anyway since all the usb ports are on the back.

    i know that they offer a vesa mount now and that there is some gap between the back and the wall but it doesn't sound ideal to me.



    a solution for you...?

    a very long usb cable



    Apple has gone on record saying they won't enter a market where someone is making a great product. eyeTV definitely qualifies as great. Therefore...



    Just place the eveTV box where you place your speakers. USB extension cords go for what? $10? (that's if you even need one). A VESA mount will definitely allow for room enough to plug stuff in.



    But in any case, no one interested in this stuff should buy anything until next Tuesday. By then we'll be able to determine if Apple intends this iMac to be the home theater it could possibly be, or if they have something more direct/dedicated in the pipe.
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  • Reply 258 of 283
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,953member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by aegisdesign


    Which TV tuner would they include? Analogue, Digital, ATSC, NTSC, PAL, HD, DVB-T, DVB-M, ....



    You are mixing in classifications with standards so the list really isn't as forbidding as it looks.



    I have a tuner board that can do NTSC, ATSC and I think it will do PAL too.



    It would be easier if Apple included an ExpressCard slot somewhere, then third parties can be more motivated to make tidier add-ons.
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  • Reply 259 of 283
    Here's an idea:



    1) Apple rolls out movie store for iTunes.

    2) Apple creates iVision - an app that grabs TV feeds off of station's website (some stations now air shows online for free with commercials), keeps iTMS TV eps for shows that don't do that, or only keep them up for days/weeks. (Apple makes little margin on iTMS sales after royalties and bandwidth).

    3) EyeTV and cable companies are obsolete once we move to this method. In theory, cable channels support themselves with ad revenue, and now they'll only have to have profitable programs, and can stop making filler if it loses them money.
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  • Reply 260 of 283
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JeffDM


    You are mixing in classifications with standards so the list really isn't as forbidding as it looks.



    I have a tuner board that can do NTSC, ATSC and I think it will do PAL too.



    Yeah, but then you need analog and digital inputs (at least component and coax, and hopefully HDMI or DVI), and if you're using encrypted cable, you're still fracked.
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