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What the Apple Silicon M1 means for the future of Apple's Macs
skippingrock said:What specific things will the Apple Silicon Mac’s not be able to do that the preceding Mac’s could?
Obviously we won’t be able to BootCamp and run 32-bit applications with an older system, but what else will not be possible?
Will we still be able to boot off an external device? I assume with the integration of system memory that memory upgrades on desktop Macs will be a thing of the past too. So much for getting around Apple’s overpriced memory premiums, or will this be still possible somehow? What might this mean for PCI based expansion cards? Will these still work when in a thunderbolt enclosure or directly installed in a Mac Pro?It’s an exciting new step but I will like to know how these things will be restricted too. Faster is good, but is it still extendable like our current and past Macs or are these more commoditized devices that will run Mac software but not the same types of Hardware?Thunderbolt essentially is a PCIe slot over a cable. Until now, it was an Intel technology that required Intel silicon (a TB controller chip). That's why iPad Pro doesn't support TB3.
With the new TB4 spec, Intel decided to begin licensing it like USB, and allowing third parties to implement their own controller. Apple created support for TB (apparently lacking full support for the whole new TB4 spec, as it only calls it TB, plus USB4. This suggests that future Apple Silicon Macs could perhaps support PCIe compatible slots or TB-based connectivity to external PCIe slots. M1 Macs do not support eGPUs (PCIe GPU cards in an external box connected by TB), but that's could be simply because it hasn't been implemented yet. It also might not ever make sense for Apple to do the work to support eGPUs, giving it a monopoly over Mac GPUs. Seems like this is not what Apple is trying to do here tho.
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What the Apple Silicon M1 means for the future of Apple's Macs
2morrow said:Could some explain why they were not able to update the higher end MacBook Pros with the M1? -
How Apple Silicon Macs can supercharge computing in the 2020s
avon b7 said:"Huawei has similarly claimed that it is close to introducing its own internal OS platform out of necessity after the U.S. blocked it from using Google's Android. But this has been merely disruptive to Huawei's sales, because existing Android buyers don't want a non-standard, non-compatible Android alternative."
HongMeng/HarmonyOS has been in development for years (long before any U.S intervention). It is already shipping in a version 1.0 form on TVs and routers. Some of its components are already shipping in Huawei's Android phones and its watches too. The OS currently has more APIs than Android, 1,000+ modules and the TEE has received the highest level industry security certifications. It is also being aimed at industry and will make extensive use of 5G technologies and AI.
That is in a different universe to Tizen and WebOS.
No it's actually in the "same universe," the same boat even. It doesn't take a sophisticated app platform to run a TV or router. Huawei also blatantly lied about the status of its Android replacement. If it could actually ship on a phone for Android buyers, it would have a long time ago rather than shipping out refreshed old Android phones to skirt the ban.
Side note: the word "Universe" inherently means that there is only one. That's why it has the "uni" in it.
The U.S geopolitical situation simply sped the whole development process up and made Huawei show its hand a little earlier than planned.
No.
So now we know it is also already shipping to many car manufacturers and IoT partners and offers a higher level of integration than either Android Auto or Car Play. The cars will have a HiCar 5G Module built into them. It was deployed to manufacturers last year. The OS will reportedly ship on phones next year. It is also already running on custom SoCs (one of which Huawei has even made available to the open market for IoT devices). It will integrate Huawei HiLink connectivity (a protocol that has existed for years for Huawei and partner devices) for integration of devices.
None of that has anything to do with Huawei being able to ship a smartphone platform. And nobody should be integrating any Huawei/PRC technology into anything unless they are part of China's goal to spy on and steal western technology and expand the influence of the communist party globally.
A 'non-compatible Android alternative'? It is a new system. The whole point is to be an alternative to Android. Compatibility didn't come into its design and it is far, far too early to start affirming what users want. Especially as the world's largest handset market can easily shift its focus to a non-Android world (seeing as GMS is basically irrelevant there).
The OS foundation will also be open sourced and Huawei is a manufacturer itself and already has thousands of HiLink partner devices on the Chinese market.
Thanks to HarmonyOS/HMS many of those devices will become available outside China with regionally localised apps. On top of that, Huawei is signing up western partners to deploy HarmonyOS compatible devices. Just this week they signed a deal with Spanish appliance manufacturer Cecotec and it is rumoured that Siemens/Bosch/Audi/BMW etc are also on board. Of course, in addition to industry giants like Haier.
The only 'current' issue is (once again) geopolitical and concerns chipset fabrication but that is merely an obstacle not an permanent impediment. Huawei has apparently set itself a goal of two years to eliminate dependency on U.S technology, something which will tie in nicely with HarmonyOS 4.
I know you love your company but it really is just an arm of the communist party and nobody with two brain cells should be integrating any PRC tech into their products.
It is also worth remembering that Huawei also has ARM based solutions for HPC/AI /Servers and more recently, Desktops.
As for PowerPC, it should also be noted that Apple's PowerPC issues were related to its niche of desktop/laptop computing. Away from that niche, PowerPC was a force to be reckoned with in low power embedded industries (such as within the automobile industry). And of course 'PowerPC' actually lives on under a different guise and enjoys a very good reputation due to its maturity as a platform and the tools available for it.
This article was about Apple and its desktop computing platform.
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13-inch MacBook Pro with Apple Silicon M1 review: Unprecedented power and battery for the ...
anantksundaram said:Dan_Dilger said:The people who hate Touch Bar are the same who think Macs need touch screens. They constantly talk about how great Surface is. They're PC people; they should buy PCs. I
I think the TB is a meaningless distraction (probably adds to the cost, however), yet I have no interest in my Mac having a touch screen. That right there invalidates your overwrought claim about "The people who..." -
Is Apple Intelligence artificial?
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M1 Macs deliver Apple's first support for USB4
ednl said:This article is another disaster. USB 4 does not necessarily mean 40 Gbps. That is the max speed but it does not have to be supported for devices to be compliant. This also means that the new name does NOTHING to take away confusion.
It says so right there on the spec sheets: "USB 3.1 Gen 2 (up to 10Gb/s)" on all three of https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs/ and https://www.apple.com/macbook-air/specs/ and https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro-13/specs/You might think of it as being similar to how Wibree, once a competing wireless peripheral technology to Bluetooth, was folded into the Bluetooth spec to deliver BTLE.The news here is that Apple is now implementing its own controllers capable of TB3 right on the SoC, thanks to Intel's donation to the USB spec. I initially saw comments saying that M1 had implemented this before Tiger Lake, but as I noted in a correction, there are PCs shipping with TL chipsets and USB4 since Oct.
USB4 isn't such a big deal on PCs that ship with Intel chips, as PC makers could already ship TB3 with Intel chips. For Apple to implement this on their own silicon is noteworthy, even if M1 Macs arrived a month later. Without the new USB4 spec including TB3, Apple could not have shipped TB3 on M1, as the A12Z indicated.
From your comment, it seems you are actually upset with the marketing of the USB group; I can't help you there.There does not appear to be any USB4 peripherals available yet, but M1 Macs can reach 40Gbps with existing TB3 products, which are broadly available. Companies making 40Gbps serial products will no doubt work to make them compatible with TB3 Macs (both Intel and M1) as the majority of high end PCs sold are Macs. -
What the Apple Silicon M1 means for the future of Apple's Macs
jdb8167 said:I was quite surprised by the Thunderbolt/USB4 and RAM limitations. I see in the slide that they did show “Up to 16 GB” which I missed during the presentation. But the single external display and only 2 TB/USB4 ports came as a real surprise.The performance of these SoCs is lovely and industry changing but I would love an explanation why they only wanted to release low end SoCs for the first round. It doesn’t have to be detailed but it shouldn’t look like they can’t do much better right now which is what it does look like. Apple’s dedication to secrecy doesn’t seem particularly helpful right now. Either you assume that they will come out with a higher end SoC for the next round which means it isn’t very secret or you assume that they can’t which is worse.
I was pretty dissatisfied with the level of technical detail in the keynote. They could have done better. -
13-inch MacBook Pro with Apple Silicon M1 review: Unprecedented power and battery for the ...
mwhite said:Dan_Dilger said:mwhite said:How do we get an iPad app on our M1 computer?If you already have the app, you can even use automatic downloads to keep your M1 Mac up to date.
There isn't a way to share apps directly from your device to the desktop tho.I have an app that the developer has not updated in 2 years and don't expect him to put it on the Mac App Store will I still be able to use it?Thanks for all help -
Why Apple's guidance correction is causing less panic versus 2019
tzeshan said:Tom Cotton said "That's what we need to do so they can get to the bottom of where the virus originated and hopefully can effect a diagnostic test and vaccine for it.".
I will tell you where the US media has missed and most likely intentionally about the controversy . For all the news you read, do you read any one care to ask the numerous biosafety level 4 "super laboratory" scientists whether this is possible? Why there is none of this news from these biosafety level 4 in US? Can you care to give me a speculation? This is the single most important reason I tell you don't trust US media or even this senator. -
Huawei working on internal OS to avoid 'the crutch of Android'
cnocbui said:nolamacguy said:not if companies don't make money from it. then its a failure. profit is the oxygen corporations breathe. anything else is fandroid chest-thumping.
Samsung doesn't emphasize Android in its own marketing. It already ported as much easy hardware to Tizen as it can.