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Kwikiwi said:

Like everything in life, there are multiple views on the EU and their regulations - Some are good and some are terrible - The issue I have with the massive fine the placed on Apple for the tex issue in Ireland was that they retrospectively prosecuted Apple for what a country (Ireland) had done in setting up it's tax rules to attract business to the country - Apple did absolutely nothing wrong in this area and complied with every rule Ireland set them - they made massive investments in the country, and received a fair reward. The EU fined Apple - not Ireland - that is absolutely crazy and completely wrong. The USA should hold the EU to account for that as it is totally unjust.

On the other stuff - Apple does not have a monopoly on apps - there are plenty of options open to consumers - people who decide to buy Apple products do so because of quality, security, privacy and the ecosystem safety - for the EU to dictate that should change is just plain wrong and it is just a form of taxation - again the USA should push back on the EU on this.

In some other areas, such as privacy laws - I think the EU is ahead of the USA - also on harmful content and in this areas I think they are more right than wrong.

elijahg said:

The dumbest thing here is Apple won't let you (or third party apps) block a range of numbers. Why can't I block +1 800 *, or +1 800 850 {0-999} for example? Or indeed block or silence anyone who's not in my contacts? 

libertyandfree said:

DAalseth said:

The US needs stuff from China more than China needs ANYTHING from the US.
I expect there may be exemptions for Amazon, Apple and Walmart. But the hundreds of thousands of small stores, local stores, regional stores, that are the heart of the economy will be massacred. 

As someone pointed out yesterday, this whole scrap is above all making China look like the reliable, stable, rational, trustworthy partner. That is going to be the most harmful thing coming out of this for the US.

China needs money from the US to run their economy.  The US is by far their biggest customer whereas we are mostly consumers of their products - many of them not essential for daily life.  Yes, some small businesses rely on their cheap Chinese products but they will have to adapt in the short term - you don’t fold because some segments get hurt.  If the US stops buying the Chinese goods then China must sell them elsewhere, or shutter factories, which floods the market and crashes their prices.  Forgotten in all this is the massive theft by China on IP which was being reversed by the first Trump administration and then was unexplainable dropped by the Biden administration.  This needs to be corrected as well and this requires the Chinese govt to enforce.  

rob53 said:

Why in Texas? People thought Apple's products were getting too expensive, just wait for products coming out of Texas. They will break everyone's budget. Who in Texas will actually work at this manufacturing facility? Will everything be automated? Where will the people for these 20K come from, India? Who's going to build the facility? Not the hardest workers from south of the border. trump made sure of that.

jfabula1 said:

That’s good…..China is not reliable. The world now will think otherwise to build their own rare earth material supplies. Why did the US so reliant on these? We do have different priorities that are bad, relying on cheap goods will bite us in the ass.

Stabitha_Christie said:

9secondkox2 said:

It’s not a “blink.” It has been mentioned a lot here on ai before the tariffs came on. Apple would get an exemption. I’ve personally posted this a few times. 

Smart people do smart things. It’s why cook preemptively met with the president prior to the election and why the admin is letting some of the fine tuning show now. It’s always shock and awe to rile up the immoveable players. Then settles into the details. It’s why you hear the phrase/torle “art of the deal” being so talked about lately. 

As I’ve BEEN saying, Apple willl be fine. 

And the delusional cult continues on unabated, Dear Leader must not be questioned. 

Meanwhile in reality Trump has shown how much of a lame duck president he is and U.S. is much weaker on the world stage than it was a week ago.  

And because you pointed out in an other thread that you woefully uninformed on trade, let me help you out. What you and Trumpty Dumpty seem to be missing is Trump can't protect Apple or any other company from China. If China decides to start targeting U.S. companies like Apple or Tesla and just boots them from the country then they are absolutely screwed. The U.S. doesn't have the advanced manufacturing capabilities of China and that is something that would take at least a decade to build out. China does almost all of the world's refining of rare earth minerals. Replacing that capability will take a decade to do. China holds way more cards in this trade war than just tariffs. Turmpty Dumpty has brought a squirt gun to a gun fight. 

Maybe, just maybe, ponder the potential consequences of Trumps actions rather than blindly cheerleading for him 

Thatguy2 said:

Time to come out of your news bubble. China shutting down majority of factories calling it a worker holiday. With no wages of course and no idea when or if factories will reopen. Factory owners all over tik tok selling equipment showing the devastation. Two more weeks and 80% of factories will close. Four two six weeks Chinese economic collapse. Most Chinese companies receiving nothing but order cancellations. Chinese are terrified. Those videos are shocking. I had no idea their economy could be brought down so fast.