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Kanye swears his new album will never come to Apple Music or iTunes
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Elon Musk expects 'Apple Car' to be late to market, estimates volume production by 2020
snova said:AppleInsider said:
Through its X Labs, Google has already logged more than 1.5 miles on its self-driving car platform, though industry watchers believe the internet search giant plans to license any technology gleaned from the project to a major automotive manufacturer. Musk agrees.
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Apple culture hinders recruitment and talent retention efforts, report says
canukstorm said:Makes no sense. This article contradicts this:
http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/01/28/angela-ahrendts-treats-apple-store-employees-like-execs-retained-81-of-workforce-in-2015
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Elon Musk expects 'Apple Car' to be late to market, estimates volume production by 2020
jameskatt2 said:I would rather have an Apple car than a Tesla.
Apple has higher quality standards than Tesla.
Apple's car wouldn't have all the flaws that Tesla has. The flaws are so numerous, Consumer Reports was forced to place Tesla on its not-recommended list.
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iPhone marketshare dips to 14.8% amid tougher Chinese competition, Gartner says
cali said:Because all cars look like the original Ford right?
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Apple's iPhone install base features growing 'powder keg' ripe for upgrades, Cowen says
Jonmat said:It's not ridiculous. it may be a bit off topic but his point will be proven correct. Just not the current topic at hand.
And when was the iPhone a fashion statement... Fashion, mainstream and trendy correlate in more than one single way. As does the statement in fashion.
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Apple counsel attacks Spotify complaints as 'rumors and half-truths'
Rayz2016 said:jonl said:Do you mean to imply that the billing departments of Spotify, Netflix, etc have 30% overhead, so it's a wash whether a user goes through Apple or signs up with the actual provider of the service?
Transaction fees, regulations updates, equipment infrastructure, support staff, training of support staff, buildings to house the support staff, staff to clean the buildings that house the support staff, accountants, auditors, developers, security experts… Now all of this has to cover operations across the globe that takes into account different regulations across the globe.
Now outside of this, there are other costs of running the app store that go beyond credit card processing, and these have to be paid for too. And what's worse is that these costs increase the more countries Apple supports and the more customers they get. There are lots of apps that get hosted for free on the app store too, which somewhere down the line, will incur a cost.
Do I think the billing departments of Spotify, Netflix etc. have a 30% overhead? No, because they don't have as many customers as Apple, do not operate in as many countries in Apple and do not shift as much data as Apple.
And in many cases, their fee processing is handled by Apple.
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Apple counsel attacks Spotify complaints as 'rumors and half-truths'
michael scrip said:jonl said:
It's really very simple. Spotify, like Netflix and others, has its own billing department. It doesn't need Apple to facilitate charging for subscriptions. Their app should be able to send people to their web site to sign up just like when trying to use the app on a TV, BD player, etc.
The problem is, many users aren't aware of the rules. As I wrote earlier, Spotify has put out a sort of PSA, and I hope it educated a lot of people who Apple might otherwise have tricked into paying an exorbitant recurring tax to Apple. In fact, it did educate CNBC anchor Brian Sullivan, who stated at 2:44 EDT today that "he was one of the idiots who subscribed to Spotify through iTunes, and he's got to go back and fix that." Good for him!
The clapping seals supporting Apple in these threads are certainly concentrated here but few in number in the real world. Real people who hear about this are outraged and feel like idiots for paying Apple 30% more for nothing. They feel like Apple tricked them. Like Brian Sullivan, they're going to fix the problem.
Brian might feel like an idiot... but that was a decision made by Spotify. I'm sure he's not the only person who didn't know about the two different prices. But shame on Spotify for even putting their customers into this situation.
Netflix, on the other hand, charges the same in the App Store as they do on their website. They just eat that cost. I haven't heard Netflix complain about it in countless articles... so perhaps they realize this is the cost of doing business.
As for what Spotify did, if Apple had allowed them to link to their web site, as they are able to do on TVs, BD players, Google Play, etc, the situation never would have arose. Before Apple Music, it was merely naked greed on Apple's part. Now, Apple is clearly engaging in anticompetitive behavior, and I hope they get burned for it if they don't hurry up and start behaving.
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Spotify says Apple rejected update over App Store policies, 'causing grave harm' to service
davidw said:jonl said:So many clueless, crazy people here. You loons need to start sending 30% checks to the manufacturers of your TVs, BD players, AVRs, etc, all devices that have apps that you use that are subscription-based. They're being ripped off, and they probably don't even know it! Think how happy they'll be to get your monthly checks!
You are clueless. The reason why we don't have to send makers of Smart TV's, BD players, AVTs, etc a check for using the apps in their devices is because they are not charging us to use the apps in their devices. Plus you must already have an account with the owner of the app to use their app on one of these devices. And you must set up this account on the app's website. There is no direct link on the app that will connect you to their website. That's because most of these device don't have an internet browser. With Apple or Google app stores, you are paying the fee for using an app to pay for an account. Not to use the app to access the contents. Can one pay for their subscription account using the app on their Smart TV, BD players, AVRs. 'etc.? Is this getting through to you?
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Apple counsel attacks Spotify complaints as 'rumors and half-truths'
michael scrip said:
Very true. And Apple provides those services for all apps in the App Store.
If I buy a $10 app... Apple gets $3. End of transaction. Apple never asks for any more money because that $3 is supposed to cover the costs of the above services.
But $3 every month?
Other than the monthly swipe of the credit card (which is automated BTW)... what are they doing different than any other app in the App Store?
It's really very simple. Spotify, like Netflix and others, has its own billing department. It doesn't need Apple to facilitate charging for subscriptions. Their app should be able to send people to their web site to sign up just like when trying to use the app on a TV, BD player, etc.Alas, those are the rules! Spotify was well aware of the rules.
The problem is, many users aren't aware of the rules. As I wrote earlier, Spotify has put out a sort of PSA, and I hope it educated a lot of people who Apple might otherwise have tricked into paying an exorbitant recurring tax to Apple. In fact, it did educate CNBC anchor Brian Sullivan, who stated at 2:44 EDT today that "he was one of the idiots who subscribed to Spotify through iTunes, and he's got to go back and fix that." Good for him!
The clapping seals supporting Apple in these threads are certainly concentrated here but few in number in the real world. Real people who hear about this are outraged and feel like idiots for paying Apple 30% more for nothing. They feel like Apple tricked them. Like Brian Sullivan, they're going to fix the problem.