libertyandfree

 If these are the updates for MacOS26 then Apple is in worse shape than I thought.  These are all so minor/lame that almost no one will know or care.  Apple needs to get its act together with implementing and integrating AI within MacOS and that thing they call Siri. For the first time since the late 1990’s I am really concerned Apple has lost its way.  

 You worry too much about something that has a good chance of never occurring.  And if Trump is one thing he is a negotiator, and I believe it highly unlikely Apple will be hit with a 25% tariff. 

This massive uncertainty means you do nothing for now and if one has the means to slowing move some production back to the US you start to explore that.  Keep in mind 90% of the tariffs are a means to get to negotiations and during those anything can happen.  It’s only been 2 weeks and people are going crazy where I expect most of these tariffs issues will be resolved over the next few months. 

9secondkox2 said:

As I said a long time ago, intelligent people are in charge snd apple will be ok. The president will have a way to navigate Apple through some difficult decidd add jobs. And it has come to pass. 

Cook was wise to open the door of discussion dnd thr president has been wise in response. 

I know it’s popular in this particular online space to detract from the president no matter what he does, but the fact is tarriffs are necessary -yet it’s sldd add o necessary to protect Americans and American companies. The idea is to put the pressure on other countries, particularly China - and not on American companies. 

It’s not changing mindset. It’s continuing forward motion, msnuevering as needed. That’s only good stuff snd Apple is the better for it. As this year marks time for my iPhone upgrade and early next is my next Mac purchase, I am a pretty happy potential customer right about now. 

 Well said.  Most people do not comprehend what is going on with the tariff machinations.  I have said all along Trump will not harm Apple and other significant US companies. He is using very hard nosed and sometimes reckless tactics to get to his end goal.  

avon b7 said:

libertyandfree said:

DAalseth said:

The US needs stuff from China more than China needs ANYTHING from the US.
I expect there may be exemptions for Amazon, Apple and Walmart. But the hundreds of thousands of small stores, local stores, regional stores, that are the heart of the economy will be massacred. 

As someone pointed out yesterday, this whole scrap is above all making China look like the reliable, stable, rational, trustworthy partner. That is going to be the most harmful thing coming out of this for the US.

China needs money from the US to run their economy.  The US is by far their biggest customer whereas we are mostly consumers of their products - many of them not essential for daily life.  Yes, some small businesses rely on their cheap Chinese products but they will have to adapt in the short term - you don’t fold because some segments get hurt.  If the US stops buying the Chinese goods then China must sell them elsewhere, or shutter factories, which floods the market and crashes their prices.  Forgotten in all this is the massive theft by China on IP which was being reversed by the first Trump administration and then was unexplainable dropped by the Biden administration.  This needs to be corrected as well and this requires the Chinese govt to enforce.  

What happened with agriculture in his last term? China quickly pivoted away to Brazil. Lobsters from Maine? China went to Canada.

China is in a situation - provoked by the US - where mutual trade is severely impacted. 

They won't go crawling to Trump and they've made that very clear. 

They will continue to get rid of US debt but with a common sense approach. They will tighten restrictions on critical minerals/rare earths. They could even switch away from Boeing to Airbus as a symbolic move. They will strengthen BRICS+ deals as well as tempt the EU. 

At the end of the day it is Trump who started everything and it is Trump who will have to fix it. 

He blinked first with the 90 day pause. Now he will have to blink again. 

 You obviously do not know how these negotiations work.  The so called blink has 90 countries negotiating and if that’s a blink then blink away.  The whole world knows China is the bully when it comes to trade and fairness, did you somehow miss this? 

DAalseth said:

The US needs stuff from China more than China needs ANYTHING from the US.
I expect there may be exemptions for Amazon, Apple and Walmart. But the hundreds of thousands of small stores, local stores, regional stores, that are the heart of the economy will be massacred. 

As someone pointed out yesterday, this whole scrap is above all making China look like the reliable, stable, rational, trustworthy partner. That is going to be the most harmful thing coming out of this for the US.

China needs money from the US to run their economy.  The US is by far their biggest customer whereas we are mostly consumers of their products - many of them not essential for daily life.  Yes, some small businesses rely on their cheap Chinese products but they will have to adapt in the short term - you don’t fold because some segments get hurt.  If the US stops buying the Chinese goods then China must sell them elsewhere, or shutter factories, which floods the market and crashes their prices.  Forgotten in all this is the massive theft by China on IP which was being reversed by the first Trump administration and then was unexplainable dropped by the Biden administration.  This needs to be corrected as well and this requires the Chinese govt to enforce.  

 Like I have repeatedly stated on this site and others, . Apple would not be harmed by these tariffs.  It’s amazing how people still do not understand how Trump operates and what his intentions are even after him being president for 4+ years.   Many view him as incompetent or corrupt and greedy but he is just following his America First policies and truly is trying to put America in a better position.  Those suffering from TDS will never see this.