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jellyapple said:

Apple is a sleepyhead in AI. All early birds have got their worms and Apple is slowly getting up from bed. 

The work is just starting on deploying AI to the masses and that falls into Apple core strength.  NVDA’s AI is all about processing power and development of LLM and such whereas how it will be deployed to the masses is just getting underway.   Don’t count Apple out.  

NYC362 said:

blastdoor said:

That roadmap implies no m3 Mac mini. I wonder if there will also be no m3 Mac Studio and if maybe the Mac Studio will get an m4 faster than we’d otherwise expect. And if all that turns out to be true, I wonder if the explanation might be that the first 3nm process from TSMC had yield issues, so maybe Apple wants to move to N3E ASAP

I wonder if we might see an intro of an M4 Max and Ultra for the Mac Studio and Mac Pro at WWDC.   Introduce them on June 10th, available on June 21 or 28 (which is a bit longer than the normal announcement to availability span for Apple)... that's 10 or 11 weeks away.  Considering the relative small numbers of units needed compared to MacBook Pros, this could be a possibility.  
 
Also, putting an M3 Max and Ultra chip into a Studio in June, really makes no sense as the processors (at least for the Max) as it would already be eight months old.  

LOL, this is never going to happen.  The M4 is not that far along and the basic vanilla M4 would be the first one out of the fab due to less complexity compared to the Pro/Max/Ultra. Fabs rarely if ever start with the more advanced chips and then work backwards. Moreover, if the M4’s are ready now one has to question how many “AI” enhancements it actually has.   

MacPro said:

tht said:

mobird said:

What's up with the Mac Studio?

The hope is that Apple announces Mac Studios with M3 Max and M3 Ultra in June. If so, it's right on schedule for M4 versions in June of 2025.

There is speculation that Apple will have a discrete monolithic M3 Ultra chip with a silicon bridge to make a M3 Extreme consisting of 2 M3 Ultra chips. That would be interesting. If so, this could open up a MBP18 model or MBP16 with the M3 Ultra. Just not a lot of customers for a Mac Studio with Ultra or a Mac Pro with Ultra or Extreme.

My 2 cents;  they may go straight to M4. If they announce the M4 and then try to release the M3, who would buy the M3s?

This is not a concern since Apple would never talk about an unreleased processor and will not announce the M4’s until they are ready to be debuted in a product. 

 Interesting but nothing more than R&D at this time.   Maybe we see something come out in another 5 years.  I would think Apple would rather buy a robotics company that is significantly further along than they are.   Heck why not buy a robotics company since they wasted $10B on the Apple Car which made a little more sense as the prior rumours of an Apple branded TV set. 

 I will be shocked if Apple has a massive overhaul of Siri and iOS with AI features this summer since they seem to be late to the AI party and these features do not get into released software and hardware in a short period of time.  I suspect the 2025 series of processors (A and M series) will be the first ones to have significantly improved AI hardware and it seems unrealistic to believe this year’s A18 processor (which is already designed and in pre production) will have anything more than just core and clock increases. Of course Apple will hype any AI related enhancements to the moon but I suspect 2025 will be the year we see significant implementation of AI in Apples devices.