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Well well well, so Kia is becoming the TSMC (Taiwan Semi)  for the next gen autos, interesting.

Why is no one talking about the possible Boston Dynamics tie-in with this autos???
Apple couldn't have picked a better partner for their initial foray into autos, a long time auto manufacturer who owns THE most cutting edge robotics company. To me that's the most exciting part of this whole partnership.  

The branding issue is a nothing burger, no one cares who makes Apple's stuff, be it Hon Hai, TSMC, or Kia, they're just manufacturing partners. In fact, choosing Kia probably saved your whinning butts $10k right off the bat when you buy one of these babies.

So Stop yo Whining!

JP234 said:

"Apple's diversity efforts are 'selfish & practical' says head of developer relations…"

On the face of it, sounds like something you'd hear on right-wing talk shows. Poor choice of words, when you read the article and realize that enacting policies of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion will benefit Apple Inc. in the long term through hiring and promotion based solely on merit, not race, class or religion. And that's practical, enlightened benchmark for sustainable growth.

History trivia: Enlightened self-interest was a concept that Alexis de Tocqueville discussed in his work Democracy in America, back in 1835 and 1840. The notion he held was that Americans voluntarily join together in associations to further the interests of the group and, thereby, to serve their own interests. Since the SCOTUS "Citizens United" ruling in 2010 that corporations are people, Apple's efforts are of benefit to humanity as well as the corporation! And since the ruling also concluded that money is free speech, Apple has the biggest megaphone (and Disney should be allowed to disagree without fear of retaliation from an opportunistic neofascist with big ambitions).

"in the long term through hiring and promotion based solely on merit, not race, class or religion."
What you typed actually sounds like something you'd hear on right-wing talk shows. 

Your post highlights one glaring issue, it's not what is said, it's WHO says it that matters.

It's too bad the world is this way now.

wizard69 said:

randominternetperson said:

“Much-maligned touchbar”?  I would have used something like innovative, versatile, product-defining, or beloved instead.  I’m really hoping that Apple doesn’t listen to the vocal minority this time around.  Outside this forum are there that many people who long to emulate a VT-100 or otherwise has a need for 20th-century-holdover physical F-keys?  Setting volume and brightness is so my better with a slider rather than buttons. Having clearly labeled context-sensitive virtual buttons is clearly better than cryptic, static keys. Don’t go backwards, Apple. 

As for function keys, if you consider the ESC. key to be a function key then yes they are needed.   As for VT100 emulation, this may sound strange but there is still working hardware/software out there that expects to communicate with VT100's.

Beyond that Apple really needs to learn that being an ass isn't placing them in a good light.   The touch bar is not a bad idea, it is the implementation that is the issue.   When you completely delete functionality like function keys you basically are telling your users you don't care about their often massive investments in software.   It also dismisses that some software uses the function keys effectively.

The touchbar or something like it really isn't a bad idea as a general concept.   The problem is they deleted very important functionality for many users with a replacement that wasn't ergonomic.   Such a supplemental touch screen has a lot of potential if they could get developers to make use of the hardware.   This is the second problem, there is no cross platform solution to encourage developers to move to the tech.    On top of that Apple limited the tech to a handful of Macs when it should have been implemented across the board.    That includes touch bar keyboards for desktop Macs and even Mac Air. 

Well said, to add to it, the touch bar added another $200 or so to the retail price of the Macbooks. I hope Apple learned some lessons about disregarding the needs of current users and forcing them into a future they want. Keyboard, Touchbar, ports/dongles, 3.5mm headphone jack, time to back track folks.