k2director

Apple has sabotaged a lot of products and features that long-time users have come to depend on.

The reason this "rumor" got so much traction is that it does indeed seem within the realm of possibility. And the fact that Apple simply says "not true" and doesn't elaborate any further really isn't that much of a reassurance. 

 

crowley said:

k2director said:

Tesla has had a tremendous head start, has a lot of credibility in the market and has a CEO who has very strong product and strategic instincts, which is not something you can seriously say for Tim Cook. 

That Musk has good instincts and has the organizational power to make big, bold bets makes him able to move Tesla quickly in important directions (like Jobs could). Tim Cook has the organizational power but not the instincts, and that will slow Apple down, and be a burden against Tesla. 

Do you really think the Model X showed more strategic insight than the Watch?

Not particularly. But the Apple Watch isn't much of an out-of-the-box product itself. There were other watches before it and they were all pretty bad. Apple came in an improved on them, which is its MO. 

But Tesla's charging network? The giga battery factory? The entire concept of Tesla? Those are all incredibly out-of-the-box and strategic ideas that I'm not sure Tim Cook's Apple is capable of coming up with on its own. 

Face it: Apple's dominance these days or at least over the last several years was all established by Jobs. Tim Cook has capitalized on that momentum as a good COO should by expanding the market for Jobs' breakthrough products into other territories and expanding the product line (bigger screens, a watch, the SE, etc). But Tim Cook hasn't done much to make me feel he can generate his own momentum like Jobs could or like Elon Musk can. 

In fact, Tim Cook's Apple has become sloppy with product quality (Apple's former undisputed strength), and let development in many product categories languish. 

jameskatt2 said:

I would rather have an Apple car than a Tesla. 
Apple has higher quality standards than Tesla.
Apple's car wouldn't have all the flaws that Tesla has.  The flaws are so numerous, Consumer Reports was forced to place Tesla on its not-recommended list.

Musk's Apple remarks show his sour grapes attitude.

Have you looked closely at many Apple products lately?  I would say they're filled with flaws, bugs, and shoddy design (along with slow development speed). It's not the same company it was several years ago, and I doubt that a logistics guy like Tim Cook can lead Apple into a major new venture like cars without a lot of mistakes. 

Tesla has had a tremendous head start, has a lot of credibility in the market and has a CEO who has very strong product and strategic instincts, which is not something you can seriously say for Tim Cook. 

That Musk has good instincts and has the organizational power to make big, bold bets makes him able to move Tesla quickly in important directions (like Jobs could). Tim Cook has the organizational power but not the instincts, and that will slow Apple down, and be a burden against Tesla.