oxonrich

If i was a foreign government i would be buying up all the USA tech companies at bargain basement prices.   Trump deserves nothing less.

“ This is the first time the shares have been below $200 since June 11, 2024. Even during COVID and what was then seen as a calamitous drop, Apple's share price was at $243.34.”

Regardless of what the Orangutan does, world trade is going to pivot towards Asia in the coming decades.   Why would it not.   The two largest countries in the world (in terms of population) are next to each other and both are predicted to have a larger economy than the USA within 20 years.   Yes, they have less disposable wealth, but they have almost 9x the number of people in those 2 countries alone.   And countrries 4 and 5 on the population list are in the same region.   

The way to compete with that, is to work in partnership with Europe and the rest of the world.   Use soft power to influence and shape relationships.   Instead Trump is isolating the USA from all it's allies and partners.   Anyone who thinks this will end well for the USA is in dreamland.   Its likely to cause a global recession in the short term.   Yes the stockmarket will bounce back, but it's only the wealthy that will benefit from that.   And if the US does not get wealth inequality under control there is a reckoning coming (as has happened to every "empire" in history)

macguy85 said:

krawall said:

I think it's time for the gloves to come off. honestly... this is a disgrace. How long are you guys across the pond (westwards, to be clear) watching this disaster unfolding?

Yes the US are very important for the whole world's economy, but there's limits to everything. We should stop this appeasing and just call out things what they are. The US government decided that diplomacy is no longer "in", so the rest of the world should not be trying to uphold principles towards the US that are not reciprocated. 

No - The gloves have come off, because the US is constantly ripped off and walked over by other countries. The EU imposes a 10% tariff on all incoming vehicles on the US, while the US only has a 2.5% tariff on EU made autos.  A reciprocal tariff here is completely fair game. The EU plays this "we need competition" game, when they are the ones being anti-competitive. The EU claims to be anti-monopoly...unless is European.

You think the Tariff is why Europeans don't buy your cars.   hahahahahaha

anonymouse said:

oxonrich said:

anonymouse said:

oxonrich said:

anonymouse said:

oxonrich said:

The DMA isn't an extortion racket.

Sorry, but if it weren't an extortion racket they would publish actual regulations that tell companies like Apple precisely what compliance consists of. Do they do that? No, they don't, they just "find" that whatever these companies, with no concrete guidance at all on what is expected, did do "wasn't sufficient". Classic racket.

The regulations are clear. Others manage to comply. 

Others? Oh good one, thought you were being serious for a moment. I know, the whole "gatekeeper" pretense makes this so ridiculous.

Your ignorance is showing. 

If you're really not a fan of kangaroo courts, perhaps it is time to speak up about the disgrace that is your SC. 

You're right, SCOTUS is a disgrace right now, but what does that have to do with the topic we are discussing? Why nothing at all it turns out. Nice try with the whataboutism.

Call it what you want.   The simple truth, demonstrated by all of your posts, is that you don't understand something so you are making out that it's wrong/bad.   That puts you in the same bracket as your dumb as a fence post Commander in Chief.   

The collapse of your economy can't come soon enough.