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  • Google's Pixel XL priced like Apple's iPhone 7 Plus, but it lacks numerous key features

    sog35 said:
    sog35 said:
    grangerfx said:
    Google used the Pixel to launch its Daydream VR. It's too bad that Apple does not have a VR SDK and hardware spec for the iPhone because the iPhone 7 Plus would destroy the Pixel with its vastly better performance and wide color support.
    99% of customers don't care for having VR on their phone.

    Now imagine if a Samsung Note7 or Pixel blows up in your FACE when doing VR.

    IMO, a smartphone should not be a 2 inches from your eyes.
    How do you think most people make phone calls? Surely your ears are damn close to your eyes. 
    but you are not directly facing your eyes at the phone. If the phone blows up you won't lose your vision when talking on the phone. Plus its very easy to simply drop the phone when you are talking on it.

    Good luck dropping a VR unit quickly that is strapped on your face. Not to mention you won't notice the phone overheating since it wont be in your hand. If the phone is in your hand you will notice the heat. 

    Phone strapped onto your FACE + overheating phones = exploding phone with very little warning
    Eh Google makes VR for both phones. Not really something worth arguing over as the option is there on both.
    singularity
  • Google's Pixel XL priced like Apple's iPhone 7 Plus, but it lacks numerous key features

    Haibane said:
    sog35 said:
    Haibane said:
    sog35 said:
    sog35 said:
    Specs don't matter. User experience does.

    The Pixel is a vessel for Google's AI and Machine learning prowess.

    And right now, you'd be hard-pressed to find a phone with a better AI and multimedia experience than the Pixel.

    This is why the Pixel is better than any phone Apple has created. And will continue to be better than any Phone Apple will create moving forward.

    Unless of course, AI and Machine Learning is just a fad.
    We shall see.

    People vote with their wallets. 

    You can make up all the high sounding jibberish you want. But ultimately its the consumer who decides which phone is the best for the 'real world'

    We shall see how many $650 Pixel phones Google sells vs the iPhone7.

    That will be the answer to which is the better phone.
    The Pixel is not going to sell better than the iPhone 7. It's a new brand. And Google doesn't have the retail and supply chain expertise that Apple has.

    However, if Google continues to be at the forefront of AI and Machine Learning, then within the next couple of years, the Pixel will become a serious and formidable contender to the iPhone.

    Google with the Pixel brand is the only company that can topple the dominance of the iPhone. Apple should be very worried, considering that they're behind in AI and Machine Learning.

    Google over the years has avoided directly competing with Apple, but now, they've just dropped the gauntlet. People are underestimating the Pixel based on specs. That's misguided.

    The Pixel's nuclear bomb is AI. It has better smarts than any smartphone. Period. And those smarts are only going to get deeper and more profound as the months and years pass by.
    Are you telling me the AI in the Pixel won't be available on $99 Android phones?

    And stop acting like Google somehow discovered the AI god-child. Give me a break. Apple already has a huge AI team. IBM, Microsoft, Facebook, Twitter, and Amazon.

    Stop acting like Google has a monopoly on AI. They don't.

    And please explain to me why the average consumer would choose a Pixel phone over an iPhone based on AI? Why?  90% of iPhone users don't even regularly use Siri. Why the hell would they abandon a brand they trust for AI? Give me a break. 
    Actually google has come out and said they won't put the AI on other phones.

    So far Alexa has been my favorite experience. I think Amazon is definitely one of the strong contenders. It will be interesting to see how Google's new AI works though once the phones are available and the home device is. Waiting for Apple's home device though because that would be nice to see.
    Thats pretty dumb not having AI on other Android devices.

    Android is truly imploding from inside. 

    If Google really thinks they can change the landscape of smartphones by selling 100k Pixel phones in the next year, they are more arrogant and stupid then I though. They won't even sell 1 million Pixel phones by the end of the year 


    They will have an AI, but it will be google now and not Google Assistant.
    Are you sure? I have Allo installed on Android 6 and it works, as far as I know, the same as the Assistant. What am I missing?
    Its not integrated into the OS its built only into Allo
  • Google's Pixel XL priced like Apple's iPhone 7 Plus, but it lacks numerous key features

    gatorguy said:
    sog35 said:
    An article written by a true Apple fanboy.   

    Wide color gamut is not a feature - If the screen is beautiful, the screen is beautiful.  Nobody cares about wide color gamut.
    Actually, the end result (lack of result, that is) is in the fact that Android doesn't know how to handle color management...without which a "beautiful screen" isn't gonna help, sadly. 
    In the absense of the aforementioned CM, sRGB colors, placed in P3 color space will be oversaturated and incorrect.
    And, despite what you said, wide gamut along with high contrast and enought color bit depth should bring more realistic colors to PEDs, hence it is not a gimmick.

    I was actually surprized when I tried to snap a picture of a flower with my iPhone. The flower had petals of that purple-blueish color, which normally gets displayed wrongly even on a professional level of equipment (like Nikon DXXX level cameras). But because CM was followed through and through, the color of the actual flower and its image were quite close. Calibrated devices, along with a working CM pipeline, is what really allows you to use a screen to its full potential.
    I get it.  For purists, accurate color is very important.  For the majority of phone owners, I would suspect though, are more interested in colors that pop and are vivid.   People love the iPhone screens because it looks nice.  Never once have I heard people say "wow those colors look really accurate!". Usually it's more along the lines of "that's a GORGEOUS screen."  Gorgeous typically means vivid, bright, and poppy.  Also, do you really think that in a world in which Instagram users are posting photos that are filtered to oblivion that they would care about real world color accuracy?
    But where it does make a HUGE difference is skin tone. That is where you need GREAT color accuracy... Without perfect color calibration photo's of people will always look a little alien.
    BS.  My photography and imaging gear is color-corrected and calibrated to the hilt, and recalibrated on a regular monthly basis, but I quite frequently and purposefully alter skin tones in portraits in order to please the person sitting for them. So do millions of Apple smartphone users who modify their own pics to get what they believe is a nicer image than the one their phone took.  

    I'm not at all downplaying the advantages of calibrated color, makes my job so much easier, but a person's "true-to-life and accurate skin tone" is often what they DON'T want. Pleasing skin-tones really can be rendered by default settings on a good but non-calibrated smartphone camera. With that said kudos to Apple for making color-calibration a priority. 
    As a photographer, I have never found the iphone color calibrated. The very fact that you can calibrate an android and not an iphone shows this point. Also I know plenty of people that had green shaded screens over the years. Not every iphone is going to roll out looking correctly, and it should be adjustable.
  • Google's Pixel XL priced like Apple's iPhone 7 Plus, but it lacks numerous key features

    sog35 said:
    Haibane said:
    sog35 said:
    Haibane said:
    sog35 said:
    sog35 said:
    Specs don't matter. User experience does.

    The Pixel is a vessel for Google's AI and Machine learning prowess.

    And right now, you'd be hard-pressed to find a phone with a better AI and multimedia experience than the Pixel.

    This is why the Pixel is better than any phone Apple has created. And will continue to be better than any Phone Apple will create moving forward.

    Unless of course, AI and Machine Learning is just a fad.
    We shall see.

    People vote with their wallets. 

    You can make up all the high sounding jibberish you want. But ultimately its the consumer who decides which phone is the best for the 'real world'

    We shall see how many $650 Pixel phones Google sells vs the iPhone7.

    That will be the answer to which is the better phone.
    The Pixel is not going to sell better than the iPhone 7. It's a new brand. And Google doesn't have the retail and supply chain expertise that Apple has.

    However, if Google continues to be at the forefront of AI and Machine Learning, then within the next couple of years, the Pixel will become a serious and formidable contender to the iPhone.

    Google with the Pixel brand is the only company that can topple the dominance of the iPhone. Apple should be very worried, considering that they're behind in AI and Machine Learning.

    Google over the years has avoided directly competing with Apple, but now, they've just dropped the gauntlet. People are underestimating the Pixel based on specs. That's misguided.

    The Pixel's nuclear bomb is AI. It has better smarts than any smartphone. Period. And those smarts are only going to get deeper and more profound as the months and years pass by.
    Are you telling me the AI in the Pixel won't be available on $99 Android phones?

    And stop acting like Google somehow discovered the AI god-child. Give me a break. Apple already has a huge AI team. IBM, Microsoft, Facebook, Twitter, and Amazon.

    Stop acting like Google has a monopoly on AI. They don't.

    And please explain to me why the average consumer would choose a Pixel phone over an iPhone based on AI? Why?  90% of iPhone users don't even regularly use Siri. Why the hell would they abandon a brand they trust for AI? Give me a break. 
    Actually google has come out and said they won't put the AI on other phones.

    So far Alexa has been my favorite experience. I think Amazon is definitely one of the strong contenders. It will be interesting to see how Google's new AI works though once the phones are available and the home device is. Waiting for Apple's home device though because that would be nice to see.
    Thats pretty dumb not having AI on other Android devices.

    Android is truly imploding from inside. 

    If Google really thinks they can change the landscape of smartphones by selling 100k Pixel phones in the next year, they are more arrogant and stupid then I though. They won't even sell 1 million Pixel phones by the end of the year 


    They will have an AI, but it will be google now and not Google Assistant.
    LOL. 

    So Android is going to give Google phones extra features?

    Can't wait for Samsung to respond. 

    Google just can't help but stab their partners in the back.
    Samsung doesn't have much room to stand with their potential for a second recall coming. Also Google has been building a vastly different OS for Nexus well before the Pixel came out than TouchWiz on Samsung.
    spheric
  • Google's Pixel XL priced like Apple's iPhone 7 Plus, but it lacks numerous key features

    mubaili said:
    Google is too proud to price the Pixel phones anything other than the same as iPhone. On the hardware spec the Pixel phones are really outdated. The back of the Pixel phone are just hideous. If you need glass then do the glass iPhone 5/5s/SE way. And with all the human brain power and AI brain power they come up with "Real Blue", "Quite Black" etc, what the fuck was Google marketing people thinking? Is that a signal the marketing people don't have much confidence in the products? Weird. It is great DED would call out Pixel phones what they are really are while other bloggers, journalists just ignore the obvious facts. I am sure the price for Pixel would be slashed or discounted heavily during the holiday season. 
    You do know that the really blue and quite black are just shots at apple and their crazy colors like space grey and jet black. Its a joke and a way of saying they aren't taking themselves as serious as apple.
  • Google's Pixel XL priced like Apple's iPhone 7 Plus, but it lacks numerous key features

    brucemc said:
    sog35 said:
    grangerfx said:
    Google used the Pixel to launch its Daydream VR. It's too bad that Apple does not have a VR SDK and hardware spec for the iPhone because the iPhone 7 Plus would destroy the Pixel with its vastly better performance and wide color support.
    99% of customers don't care for having VR on their phone.

    Now imagine if a Samsung Note7 or Pixel blows up in your FACE when doing VR.

    IMO, a smartphone should not be a 2 inches from your eyes.
    How do you think most people make phone calls? Surely your ears are damn close to your eyes. 
    Do you really believe that when someone puts up their phone to their ear, they look at the screen?  Don't know about Android, but on an iPhone the proximity detector will close the screen anyways.
    All phones work the same way. The screen turns black when you're holding it near your face. But what does it matter? Two inches from your eyes is too inches from your eyes.  Are you suggesting that a phone exploding to the side of your face damaging your ear , one of your eyes, and your hand is somehow that much less of an issue than a phone exploding in front of your eyes damaging your two eyes but none of your ears or hand?   It's a matter of choose which parts of your anatomy to lose.  

    Either way, this is a silly argument.  How is a topic about a phone made by HTC even lead to the discussion of explosions.  Surely, you don't think phones are exploding because of the OS....
    Well too be fair both a Samsung device and an iPhone have exploded due to battery.