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flydog said:

wonkothesane said:

So yet another browser. Shrug. Still happy on Safari since day one. Never really needed FF Or anything else. Fast enough, consistent, no worries. I have one Safari running on an old machine (used as media server) where Flash is installed. That’s it. A smarter way for collecting snippets from the web might be interesting, though. I’m catching myself with lots of tabs open because I like to save for future “maybe reference”. 

Not another browser.  Edge has been around for years, and it replaced Internet Explorer.

Maybe on Windows, but not on Mac. There has been no Edge browser nor any browser from Microsoft (for the Mac) since IE left 15 years ago....

I understand but am still hard pressed to see why I would want a wireless car play solution. I have a CarPlay solution in my car (aftermarket) and find that I cannot use navigation without power (as Apple has indicated). Having used Wireless charging at home and in other cars, I find it unreliable and unable to keep up with real power demands. To use Wireless CarPlay I would need to have my phone plugged in to charge unless I am driving for just a few moments and am willing to put up with gradual power loss (maybe slower, but still power loss - Wireless Charging simply cannot keep power draw neutral when using navigation). Given that limitation, and the higher speed and quality I can achieve with a wire that both charges AND connects to my Head Unit, why would I spend a few hundred more and put up with the lag? ESPECIALLY after market where I would most likely ALSO have to install the Wireless Charger?

gatorguy said:

 

Apple still has a free three-month Apple Music tier don't they, and I would assume those folks are counted as subscribers too despite not (yet) paying anything for it. Student subscribers get 6 months for free, and just $6/mo it they decide to start paying for their subscription when the time comes. They also almost certainly count the "subscribers" who receive the service as a value-add "free" from some cell carriers, for example with certain Verizon plans.

FWIW you must at least be a Prime subscriber to even enjoy the included truncated Amazon Music tier so not exactly considered free when the least expensive way to get it will cost you $120/yr. I wouldn't go so far as to claim anyone here is trolling simply for expressing their preference for a "not-Apple" music provider  Everyone else doesn't have to lose for Apple to be successful. Apple is doing pretty well for themselves. 

Correct. Apple has a 3 month free to try. It is not counted towards their subscribers though, see here:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-music-overtakes-spotify-in-u-s-subscribers-11554475924
The 6 months free for students kicked in yesterday lol, so I doubt that works into any figures anyway.
It is $5 a month, not $6. Both Spotify and Amazon have student tiers that are less expensive. Spotify's is the exact same $5, as is Amazon's, so not quite sure what stating anything about student pricing subscriptions has anything to do with anything.

 Yes, I am SURE if you get free from Verizon you are counted. I am sure that explains part of their growth in the last 6 months (Apple's - it might explain the quick jump from 50 to 60 million, since they coincide with the timeframe). I would imagine that translates to the student pricing for Verizon (if we are trying to get revenues for Apple, Apple is probably paid the student pricing rate by Verizon).

Don't disagree that Amazon Prime is not "free". The point I was making is that just because you are an Amazon Prime member (which I am) and you pay Amazon $120 a year (for shipping, movies, and yes, a "free" tier of music) does not mean I ever use it. But it is counted by Amazon as part of the growth, the whole point of this article...

I was referring specifically to @rain22 insofar as as trolling due to their insane rant extolling the wonderful virtues of Spotify and how it is so strong and the king yada yada. Not saying Spotify is going out of business tomorrow, but it is certainly not on solid ground, and the statement about it not being sustainable standalone is probably true in the long term. Spotify has shown ONE quarter ever of turning a profit, and it's growth has slowed and it expects to lose in the hundred's of millions of Euros this coming year...