gatorguy

AppleInsider said:

A drop in foreign-branded smartphone sales in China continues to hit the iPhone, with the year-on-year dip continuing for the fourth month in a row.

The figures should be concerning for Apple, as the iPhone would count as a foreign-branded device for this report. However, this figure is not broken down by vendor, so it's not possible to determine exactly how much Apple's iPhone has been affected....It is plausible, though, that other foreign smartphone brands have seen a decline in the country, with Apple working to maintain its position.

Read on AppleInsider

I don't think it is plausible that Apple has managed to maintain sales levels. The only three foreign brands besides Apple with any notable popularity in China are Motorola, Sony, and Samsung, and none of those three are in the millions per month shipped category according to what I'm finding. That drop from 5.77m to 3.04m has to include a chunk of iPhones too.

Apple has gone a step further than the article mentions. It now wants to participate in Google's legal defense, concerned that Google cannot adequately protect both themselves and Apple's interests against the government's demands for a break-up. 

https://www.thurrott.com/apple/314883/apple-files-to-represent-itself-in-google-antitrust-remedy-proceedings

rob53 said:

gatorguy said:

rob53 said:

I have to laugh about the ad revenue generated from Safari search result advertising. Raise your hand if you AREN'T using some kind of advertisement blocking on Safari. Wait, I'm not seeing any hands so at least the commenters on this forum aren't bothered by Google's (and other's) advertising. Apple knows this and they got $20B along with 36% of ad revenue. I use DuckDuckGo and there's very little advertising except for those ads buried in websites that aren't from Google. 

The money Apple got was their 1/3 cut of the advertising revenue. It was not $20B PLUS 36% of the ads. 

"In 2022, Google paid Apple $20 billion to be the default search engine on its devices. The result was a boon for both Google and Apple, with Apple receiving about 36% of the ad revenue generated from Safari search result advertising." Who's correct? The article or you? The article starts out saying Apple received $20B AND is receiving 36% of ad revenue. That's what I said.

Both.

The article is saying the $20B paid to Apple in 2021 (actually a bit more but rounded off) came from 36% of the advertising revenue. It was not "in addition to". 
Yes, the article could have been clearer since it confused not just you but probably others. It should have been worded "Google pays Apple $20 billion annually, OR about 36% of what it earns from search advertising made through the Safari browser."

The payment Google makes to Apple comes entirely from a percentage of the search advertising revenue realized through the Safari browser. Google keeps roughly two-thirds of it, with the rest going to Apple. 

rob53 said:

I have to laugh about the ad revenue generated from Safari search result advertising. Raise your hand if you AREN'T using some kind of advertisement blocking on Safari. Wait, I'm not seeing any hands so at least the commenters on this forum aren't bothered by Google's (and other's) advertising. Apple knows this and they got $20B along with 36% of ad revenue. I use DuckDuckGo and there's very little advertising except for those ads buried in websites that aren't from Google. 

The money Apple got was their 1/3 cut of the advertising revenue. It was not $20B PLUS 36% of the ads. 

Google was required to file a counter-proposal before appealing the court's ruling. It's a procedural thing.