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ericthehalfbee said:

gatorguy said:

ericthehalfbee said:

eeks the EU has done nothing about this. I’ve seen no investigation or even a suggestion of one. Yet this Epic ban apparently needed to be looked at immediately by the EU?

The fact nothing has been done about Apple’s rules suggests that Apple is, in fact, in compliance with the DMA and these rules are staying.

It's only been two days, not weeks, since the EU DMA rules went into effect. The commission announced in advance that March 7th was the day that active examinations of the gatekeepers compliance would begin.

 I fully expect a few knocks on doors, and a bit of fine-tuning from the affected big techs, preferably without fines being the driving reason for the requisite changes.

That’s quite the spin. There’s no stipulation that says the EU has to wait until the DMA comes into effect before they investigate any potential issues. Especially with the complaints from Epic & Spotify.

If the EU fine tunes the DMA it exposes them as the utter incompetent and idiotic lawmakers they truly are.

Spin? Why would the EU Commission investigate any company's compliance with a law that wasn't yet in place? As of March 7th, it is. Prior to that, none of the gatekeepers were obligated by law to change anything, and they had right up to midnight (I assume) on the day of the deadline to make any last-second changes they believed were required before authorities were legally tasked with verifying. 

ericthehalfbee said:

eeks the EU has done nothing about this. I’ve seen no investigation or even a suggestion of one. Yet this Epic ban apparently needed to be looked at immediately by the EU?

The fact nothing has been done about Apple’s rules suggests that Apple is, in fact, in compliance with the DMA and these rules are staying.

It's only been two days, not weeks, since the EU DMA rules went into effect. The commission announced in advance that March 7th was the day that active examinations of the gatekeepers compliance would begin.

 I fully expect a few knocks on doors, and a bit of fine-tuning from the affected big techs, preferably without fines being the driving reason for the requisite changes.

omasou said:

Apple didn't fold to pressure from the EU.

They got exactly what they wanted.

Which is to make sure that Epic/Sweeney sign the new developer's agreement.

If he breaks it again, I'm willing to bet there will be absolutely nothing he can do to restore it.

The implication, according to EU Commissioner Thierry Breton, is that Apple did indeed "fold" after the commission contacted them with their concerns. 
Quoting, he says he takes "note with satisfaction that, following our contacts, Apple decided to backtrack its decision on Epic exclusion". 

ihatescreennames said:

mikethemartian said:

Lately Apple has been folding quicker than a lawn chair.

This article makes it seem like it was Epic that came into line.

The article from two days ago said that Apple had asked Epic for a performance guarantee, and Epic agreed to it, in writing. Apple then said it didn't matter; they had the sole discretion of approving or denying the developer agreement for any reason, and they were denying it anyway.

 It doesn't appear Epic made any other guarantees beyond again, in writing, saying the same thing: "we'll honor the agreement".

londor said:

sirdir said:

Thank you so much Apple! You blocking me from re-downloading an app I paid for or even updating it when I move out of EU-land es CLEARLY you looking out for me, not you showing your ugly control-freak face. After 25 years of almost 'Apple only' lifestyle, I'm quickly reaching a point where I had enough… 

Why do you buy a product fully knowing the way it works and its capabilities and then complain it does not work how you wanted it to work? Buy something that fits your needs. There are plenty of options out there. 

I don't think it will be long before other regions adopt the same general "gatekeeper" policies. The EU-US Trade and Technology Council will meet again in the spring, and I would not be shocked to hear of US moves in the same direction. Due to US market share, anything along that line could be more impactful.