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After waiting on hold for over 2 hours a couple of nights ago, Apple came through.  They reached out to me today via email and I now have an appointment to pick up an iPhone 7+ on Friday in my local store.  Changed from Grumpy Camper to Happy Camper.

thisisasj said

This is not about iPhone buyers wanting to use CDMA networks. It's all about the resale value of your phone when you're ready to upgrade. A phone that supports every network and frequency worldwide is infinitely more valuable than one that is built for a specific carrier in a specific country.

I'm not sure I buy "infinitely," but if true why would I not just buy a Verizon unlocked phone and use it on AT&T?  Is there any downside? I already have accounts with both carriers.  I have two iPhones on AT&T, and four data only devices on Verizon.  While unlikely, it is conceivable  I might want to move my phones to Verizon someday.

volcan said:

Tesla does have a drivetrain with lots of moving parts. In fact that is one area where they have had problems requiring service. But that is not all. They have many issues with all sorts of parts including the computer console, climate control, steering, suspension, chargers, as well as body and sunroof leaks, rattles, corrosion, not to mention battery fires, etc. This according to CR which formerly gave the Model S its best rating, a year later the problems began to surface and they no longer recommend the car.

You may not need any oil changes but maintenance free is a myth.

The Tesla drivetrain is a fixed ratio (single speed) gear reduction drive between the motor and the wheels.  Two of them if you have the D model (dual motor).  There are no gears, shifting, clutch or torque converter.   So very simple in comparison to that multi-speed automatic in an ICE car.  

There is NO mandatory scheduled maintenance on a Tesla at all.  They encourage owners to have the car inspected annually, but it is not required to maintain the warranty.  If you drive rationally, you rarely have to touch the brakes. The regenerative braking will bring the car to a complete stop with normal braking lead times by just taking your foot off the accelerator.

I do not think there have been any issues with sun roof, rattles or corrosion (the body is aluminum). The battery is warranted for 8 years, unlimited miles.

The only thing that some folks might consider high maintainence are the tires. They still roll down the pavement. The car is very heavy and very powerful.  Those two things together = tire wear.  Especially on the Performance models.  Those 2.6 sec launches to 60 MPH, are hard on tires, even though the tesla never breaks traction nor leaves any visible rubber on the road (mine is not the P model).

But you are correct, totally maintenance free is a myth.  But it is a tiny fraction of that required by most ICE cars.  That is why the traditional manufacturers are struggling with selling EVs.  The Car DEALERS live by their service departments.  Why on earth would they be interested in selling something that has almost no maintenance required?   Thus even if GM, Ford, or whoever, made the best EV ever conceived, it will be difficult to get the dealers to *try* to sell them.

cali said:

Part of me thinks this is BS and they never got into the iPhone and withdrew because of all the bad press they were getting.

Or they broke it, trying to get in.

digitalclips said:

I simply don't see apple.car.com being for in-car entertainment somehow.

"car" and "cars" are top level domains. No .com required.