chadbag

crowley said:

Dude, no one is disagreeing with that.  The only disagreement is that this news provides any new insight compared to the day before.  Everyone acknowledges that China are at the forefront for cheap manufacturing that can scale and deliver quality.

Stop being so thickheaded in your constant crusade to spread the word of the PRC's supremacy please.

This.   This is my whole point.   China was already doing this.  Nothing changed except  the Corp HQ address is not Taiwan.  

waveparticle said:

chadbag said:

Kuyangkoh said:

chadbag said:

waveparticle said:

This proves that Chinese companies are able to manufacture Apple products with high quality cheaply that other nations cannot do. 

This does not prove that since the assembly of the phones has been in China this whole time anyway.  This just changes the Corp address of the HQ to China for those phones.

It has been proven all along that China can produce products that are specs correctly by any companies such as US, Japan and Korea. All others that are knock off or un branded should be avoided…. 

Never said they couldn't.  My point is that this is not proof of that since they've been made in China for years now.  

iPhone has been assembled in other nations before including Brazil, India, and probably Vietnam. 

And?  That is totally irrelevant to my comment and the one I was replying to.  Besides the fact that most iPhones are made in China anyway, the fact that some also get made outside China is irrelevant to the claim that a mainland Chinese company producing iPhones in China somehow means China is *now* able to produce high tech items as good as western countries.  No one disputes that they are or aren't able to manufacture precision items -- they've been doing it for years.  Even if the company who owns the factories up to now have been Taiwanese companies; the fact is the factories are in mainland China and the workers citizens thereof.  China has been producing precision high tech stuff since long before this new factory will start.   Including iPhones.  The difference is where the profits end up. 

Kuyangkoh said:

chadbag said:

waveparticle said:

This proves that Chinese companies are able to manufacture Apple products with high quality cheaply that other nations cannot do. 

This does not prove that since the assembly of the phones has been in China this whole time anyway.  This just changes the Corp address of the HQ to China for those phones.

It has been proven all along that China can produce products that are specs correctly by any companies such as US, Japan and Korea. All others that are knock off or un branded should be avoided…. 

Never said they couldn't.  My point is that this is not proof of that since they've been made in China for years now.  

waveparticle said:

This proves that Chinese companies are able to manufacture Apple products with high quality cheaply that other nations cannot do. 

This does not prove that since the assembly of the phones has been in China this whole time anyway.  This just changes the Corp address of the HQ to China for those phones.

MacPro said:

rccrd said:

To me that is really concerning. I thought the idea was to move OUT of China not move IN. It's a pity that Apple cannot structure itself in a way that is less reliant on Chinese manufacturing but it is actually working towards strengthening its ties there. To me as a consumer for both political as well as security reasons it's becoming more and more important to choose products that are manufactured in a country with at least a decent respect of human rights. Just a pity! 

Given the size of the Chinese market, it is probably a good idea since worst case, it can supply that market if nothing else.  What happens if China bans imports from Taiwan should that conflict grow?

Well , the "Taiwanese" assemblers don't actually assemble in Taiwan.  They assemble in China, so any ban on Taiwan imports wouldn't affect stuff assembled in China, though it could affect the import of SoC and other  chips actually made in Taiwan, which is a problem even with China based assemblers.