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These sorts of returns are usually auctioned or sold bu the pallet to companies (or people) who then refurb or sort through and find the working stuff and then sell it through specialty stores or eBay or other online forums etc.  I’ve subscribed in the past to lists from companies who help big retailers pack and sell the stuff by the pallet and I know a guy (through a hobby forum) who, as a retiree, recently started a business buying these sorts of pallets and selling the good stuff on eBay and the like.  He does very well. In fact his wife quit her job to help him it was working so well. 

DAalseth said:

I thought everyone  knew this. Returns to Amazon were always dumped. Unsold items were always dumped. I’ve  known about this for several years. It’s cheeper for them to dump them rather than try to restock the item for resale or send it to an outlet of some kind. It’s even cheeper than donating them.. It’s one of the reasons I don’t do business with Amazon. 

This is false.  I have first hand knowledge of this.  I have bought items from Amazon from their “Amazon Warehouse” branch, whose job it is to re-sell items that have been returned.  

The strike plate hole and bolt are both “oversized” and I had to adjust the strike plate (and do some creative wood carving in the door frame) to get it to reliably work, but once I did it almost never misses. (Original level lock).  Mine is installed on the door from the garage into the house.  (It is a test of the lock — I have a couple more not yet installed). 

FoodLover said:

ankitpati said:

FoodLover said:

comcastsucks said:

But when I am with iPhone users within the same network, all iPhone users are constantly sharing my location with Apple. Apple knows exactly who is in the same location with whom, independent of whether the others have an iPhone or not.

 https://www.tcd.ie/news_events/articles/new-study-raises-fresh-privacy-concerns-about-apple-and-google-mobile-phones/

 Apple not only collects data about handset activity, but also about handsets nearby. When you use WiFi, the WiFi MAC addresses of other devices on the network are sent to Apple.  When the location toggle is enabled on the handset then the precise GPS location is also included. The WiFi MAC address identifies a device on a WiFi network and so, for example, uniquely identifies your home router, cafe hotspot or office network.  That means Apple can potentially track which people you are near to, as well as when and where. That’s very concerning.

Even Google doesn’t do this. This is scaring. But Apple fans always believe Apple is the good guy. Read the complete study. Apple and Google collect both data, but what Apple does, does nobody else.

What Apple collects and what data they use could be two separate things. I imagine they aren't concerned about who is nearby but what routers are nearby for location purposes. I mean, you can enable rotating MAC addresses on your phone rendering the "who is nearby" as imperfect. And I believe it has been on by default since iOS 14 meaning at least 50-70% probably have it turned on.
But then again, I can only go by what they say, I can't say what they actually do.

Under Android it is not that easy. And normal people don't have a clue about how to do it.

The problem is this: I have not authorised Apple to collect my data. In many countries, even the police is not allowed to ask telecom companies for a list of people being within a cell site, for instance to find out who was when where. But a company whose services I’m not using is allowed to collect data on me worldwide without my approval?

As there is no reason for doing this, I simply have to assume that Apple would potentially misuse the data. And also share it with the respective governments worldwide.

Even every FB user under iOS will have the choice to not being tracked by FB. But I as someone without an iPhone have no choice to opt out from being tracked by Apple. How sick is this?

Disclaimer: I do not wish to get into the larger argument. Just pointing out a factual inaccuracy.

Under Android 10 and later, so a fully patched Galaxy S9 or later, MAC randomisation is enabled by default.

That randomisation you are referring to and which probably works under iOS in a similar way applies only before you get associated with a network.

Once you are in the network, your phone will use your unique MAC address.

In order to falsify your real MAC address under Android, you’ll have to root your device. Under iOS: I’m not sure whether you still could jailbreak your iPhone. 

Umm.  That random MAC address is the address USED to join the network.   Your comment makes no sense about it only being before you join the network.  

FoodLover said:

comcastsucks said:

But when I am with iPhone users within the same network, all iPhone users are constantly sharing my location with Apple. Apple knows exactly who is in the same location with whom, independent of whether the others have an iPhone or not.

 https://www.tcd.ie/news_events/articles/new-study-raises-fresh-privacy-concerns-about-apple-and-google-mobile-phones/

 Apple not only collects data about handset activity, but also about handsets nearby. When you use WiFi, the WiFi MAC addresses of other devices on the network are sent to Apple.  When the location toggle is enabled on the handset then the precise GPS location is also included. The WiFi MAC address identifies a device on a WiFi network and so, for example, uniquely identifies your home router, cafe hotspot or office network.  That means Apple can potentially track which people you are near to, as well as when and where. That’s very concerning.

Even Google doesn’t do this. This is scaring. But Apple fans always believe Apple is the good guy. Read the complete study. Apple and Google collect both data, but what Apple does, does nobody else.

What Apple collects and what data they use could be two separate things. I imagine they aren't concerned about who is nearby but what routers are nearby for location purposes. I mean, you can enable rotating MAC addresses on your phone rendering the "who is nearby" as imperfect. And I believe it has been on by default since iOS 14 meaning at least 50-70% probably have it turned on.
But then again, I can only go by what they say, I can't say what they actually do.

Under Android it is not that easy. And normal people don't have a clue about how to do it.

The problem is this: I have not authorised Apple to collect my data. In many countries, even the police is not allowed to ask telecom companies for a list of people being within a cell site, for instance to find out who was when where. But a company whose services I’m not using is allowed to collect data on me worldwide without my approval?

As there is no reason for doing this, I simply have to assume that Apple would potentially misuse the data. And also share it with the respective governments worldwide.

Even every FB user under iOS will have the choice to not being tracked by FB. But I as someone without an iPhone have no choice to opt out from being tracked by Apple. How sick is this?

They are not tracking you.  They get a MAC address.  There is no personal info attached to that MAC address.   They are tracking MAC addresses.  Something your phone broadcasts in public.