Dan_Dilger

gentooguy said:

Yawn. Check DED's archives circa 2012-2015. He insisted (among other things): 1. Apple would never have a phone with a screen bigger than 4' because the Android phones with larger screens were bad design.

Wow wild accusations there Mr Gentoo! 

Here's the real me from 2014:  https://appleinsider.com/articles/14/05/01/how-iphone-5c-helped-apple-move-toward-larger-new-iphones-in-the-future 

I did once write that consumer interest in large fablets appeared to be a pretty low niche in Google Play analytics because that was once the case. I never recall claiming that Apple "would never have a phone with a bigger screen," but maybe you can provide a link to evidence of your claim?  

 2. Apple would never have an Ax SOC with more than 2 cores because Android phones only needed 4-6-8 cores because of bad design 

Citation please! I did note in 2013 that Samsung and others were pursuing multiple-core CPUs that failed to deliver better performance than Apple's two core A7, because that was true. I never wrote that two cores was the maximum for all eternity though. 

 3. Apple would never come out with a midrange phone because it was impossible to make a good product for less than the premium prices that Apple was charging and that $400 phones like the Moto X (which won phone of the year) were bad design 

Well that was true, wasn't it? Apple didn't shift to $300 iPhones, and even its new $399 SE is a minor, limited effort refresh of iPhone 8 to serve niche market segments, as this article details. That's why it is being released in the spring when nobody is buying an iPhone but Androids are all floating their new models. BTW: Moto X failed and Google sold off the rest to China. You're really bad at this arguing stuff, aren't you? Haha.

 4. Apple will never offer phones at multiple price points and form factors because that was bad design that would result in inferior quality control and products, and Android OEMs like Samsung, LG, Motorola etc. offering this variety are going to be out of business any day now. 

Motorla is literally out of business! It's a licensed brand on the level of Atari and Polaroid now.  LG and Samsung are literally struggling with demand and shifting to $300 commodity, suffering bad design and inferior quality control and products. 

Expecting an "I was wrong" and "Apple learned useful things from observing how Android OEMs were innovating with product design and marketing" would be a bit much from DED.

I love being proven wrong! I'm quite dissapointed that across my thousands of articles over the last 15 years you couldn't find one thing that I got really wrong. There are certianly many mistakes or misunderstandings I've made, so it shoudln't be so difficult to nail at least one in your off-topic mega-rant comment desperately tring to attack the author of a piece you make no criticism of. What's wrong with you dude? I imagine you're also going a bit nuts from being stuck at home. Try a hot bath. 

Even if it was 100% true. 

Oh right, I actually did write that a few years ago, listing out ten areas where Apple learned from Android firsts or innovations and came beck with a response that belately took the market back: MP3 phones, an app store, IM, notifications, NFC, phablets, modern UI, and wearables: https://appleinsider.com/articles/17/05/14/editorial-when-apple-is-2-years-behind-you-put-your-things-in-order 

Where's your humble apology upon being proven wrong?

Especially since according to DED, Android was supposed to have collapsed by now with Google either being a tiny company focused primarily on search and ads - which DED said was also in a steep decline and would never recover - or out of business altogether. 

Ok I never said Google was going to be tiny or go out of business, but I did write that it did appear Google was going to give up on Android due to its architectural and legal issues, and move to Chrome and other web-based solutions. That wasn't really a future prediction, it was just stating what was happening. In 2013: https://appleinsider.com/articles/13/07/29/google-appears-ready-to-ditch-android-over-its-intellectual-property-issues and revisited five years later https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/10/12/google-is-downplaying-android-to-focus-its-future-on-chrome-os

Google IS focused on search and ads, and Android is in a steep decline that it isn't recovering from. Remember when Apple was in a minority position and Android fans were excited about Motorola and a new Galaxy S phone and crowing about Google's super cheap tablets? Did you see what happened over the past 5-10 years? Review my work for a refresher!  

https://appleinsider.com/editor/daniel+eran+dilger

Stuff like: https://www.fakesteve.net/2009/11/rabid-fanboy-guest-blogger-daniel-eran-dilger-on-why-android-will-fail.html with "The future: ... for Android, bleak" "Google claims Android phones will be able to do this, but your experience may vary. There is also considerable risk that an Android phone may or may not be unable to play music or videos. And this nugget: "Who’s paying you off? Google? Verizon? Motorola? In Gartner’s case this amounts to hilarious projections in which Gartner claims Android will outsell iPhone at some point in the future, a projection based on nothing, it would appear, other than Gartner’s own wishful thinking and decades-long hatred of Apple. At TechCrunch the problem is more serious as this “blog” has devoted itself to an irrational smear campaign against Apple that boggles the mind and has raised serious questions about the ethics of that particular site and its potential conflicts of interest in matters involving Google." So, er, yeah. Not really.

You do know that the only article you cited here was a parody of me by a writer mocking my writing style to make absurd claims? Did you know that? 

GeorgeBMac said:

I would have gone with modern external bezelless design in an SE sized phone with previous gen processors. 

Frankly I don't see a much advantage to the end user from an A13 vs an A12 or even A11.   But to get rid of the bezels and put a big screen in a small form factor would have pronounced user benefits.

But, I am sure Apple thought of that idea, tested it and rejected it. 

I am equally sure that many people will be buying this phone.

...   And Kudos for giving it 64gb instead of 32Gb!

The phone will be fully functional and do a good job.

Gobnu said:

Expected, but still disappointing.  I was hoping they would pull off the surprise and have one in the original SE case with an A12 in it.  I would greatly miss the smaller size, and the flat edges.  Guess I'll have to take a look at the fall offerings.

ElCapitan said:

corrections said:

ElCapitan said:

First of all there is a rude awakening across the planet of the insanity of shipping production of goods and services offshore, and putting all eggs in the Chinese basket.  The effect of the COVID-19 crisis is that suddenly all countries starts to act like countries again, and global sourcing has to a large extent collapsed. 

With the upcoming financial depression we just have seen the start of, people are going to first cut on subscriptions; cloud services, music, media streaming, software subscriptions, then anything premium.

People are going to get much more aware of purchasing products that creates jobs in their countries and not someone elsewhere. Equally they are going become much more focused on that their hard earned money don't stuff the coffers of international companies that hardly give anything back to their markets (taxes, job creation, local economic growth). 

Apple also pays the most taxes in the US, and its sales are hit by state sales tax etc. Substantiate what you're claiming because it sounds awfully weak. 

Apple thrives on harvesting a large international market, yet they bring very little job creations and activity to the majority of the markets they harvest. They also leave very little tax revenue in the markets they harvest, so the net outcome for those markets are negative overall.

This is not particular to Apple, but is the case for just about every US company operating in non US markets.  Thankfully the EU is fully aware of the situation, and legislation is in the process of being created to make sure such companies pay their fair share of taxes in the countries/markets they harvest. 

ElCapitan said:

corrections said:

But Apple's installed base includes a vast number of independently rich people who are at most going to be inconvenienced by this turmoil. 

The virus does not discriminate between rich or poor, so even Apple's user base can be seriously "inconvenienced" from that fact alone.

Secondly, the economic downturn we will experience will be unprecedented in comparison to what the world have experienced in recent times because, this most likely engineered virus, will be exceptionally hard to make a vaccine for (if at all possible), and we will see multiple waves of infections across the planet. – Waves that has the potential to be much more lethal than the current one because one of the "hallmarks" of the virus is it degrades your immune system making the body less prepared to withstand the next infection.