ericthehalfbee

rogifan_new said:

So are all the people who shit on anybody here who speculated iPhone sales might be soft going to apologize now? It was patently obvious once Apple started heavily pushing the trade-in program and displaying cheaper prices on apple.com homepage that there was an issue with sales.

Not for a minute.

Should someone who's wrong 24 quarters in a row (all the analysts and the idiots who believe them) that now finds their prediction come true one single time suddenly be praised for their insight? Or did they just get lucky after repeating the same tripe over and over to the point where one day they were finally correct?

We all know it's the latter.

sirlance99 said:

ericthehalfbee said:

What's that "splat" sound you hear?

It's millions of haters/losers/idiots all over the world having a collective orgasm at hearing this news. Seems they can only be happy when there's bad news about Apple.

This is Tim Cook saying we fucked up. Which happens from time to time. Even for Apple. Apple will be just fine for the long foreseeable future, but you can bet that there will be more bad news from Apple over the next few years. 

Stop defending Apple no matter what. Call them out when they screw up and celebrate their victories when they have them. 

Who's defending Apple? I'm making fun of all the losers whose happiness depends on someone failing, whether it be Apple or someone else.

And how exactly did Apple "fuck up"? Is Tim Cook in charge of China/US relations regarding trade? Does he control the value of the US dollar related to other countries? Seems like the only thing Apple did was to slightly over estimate sales. That's hardly a "fuck up".


I've said all along iPhone sales will level off. They have to as there's not enough customers in the world to keep their growth going on indefinitely. Then Apple will be in the "terrible" position of having to settle with 200 million iPhone sales a year to people upgrading their older devices. The rest of the smartphone world would die to be in the same "predicament" that Apple is.

Meanwhile, Wall Street will punish Apple severely for this. Seems like a good time to buy stock (or for Apple to increase their buybacks).

many of them by "trolls" — firms that own the rights to one or more patents but don't actually develop any products with them, instead depending on legal actions and/or licensing agreements to make money.

I’m getting tired of this definition. How a company ACTS defines whether they’re a troll, not whether they make products. It’s perfectly legal and acceptable to be a non-practicing entity (NPE) and make money licensing patents you own.

If you file frivolous/vague lawsuits, file lawsuits without negotiating in good faith first, threaten potential infringers to secure a quick settlement, try to abuse patents that are part of a standard or try to sue end users instead of manufacturers - these would be activities that would earn you a troll label.

My uncle owns a couple patents related to farm equipment (he’s a farmer and inventor). He licenses them to equipment manufacturers. He’s never had to sue anyone and makes a reasonable income from
his patents. Is he a troll because he doesn’t own a billion dollar manufacturing company to make his own  products?

KITA said:

ericthehalfbee said:

AppleExposed said:

Witbe said:

Qualcomm has done a wonderful job. I totally sense why this article is written. I am eagarly waiting for new devices with snapdragon 855. Would like to see comparison with iphone XS.

Won't even come close.

It’ll very likely come close or match in certain tests. It might even beat the A12 in something. And those results will be cherry-picked and talked about as if they’re the most important.

A12 will easily beat the 855 overall. 

The only meaningful area I can see it beating Apple is in sustained graphics performance:


It's worth noting that these tests are also on devices with outdated Vulkan drivers that in some cases perform worse than their OpenGL ES counterpart.

Most benchmarks show Apple with a monstrous lead, of course that performance can't be sustained for very long. In some cases it can't even be sustained for the duration of the benchmark, hence a peak performance that lands rather close to the sustained performance (the complete opposite of the benchmark above):

Still up to your deceitful ways I see.

You failed to mention the "bug" with 3DMark where the A12 GPU "crashes" when the iPhone XS is cool, because the GPU ramps up to very high power levels. They could only complete the test AFTER they ran several tests to get the A12 to heat up to such a point that the test starts with a lower GPU frequency.

In essence, the entire test is run on an iPhone/A12 that's ALREADY warm enough to force the GPU to run slower. And it still performs well.

Further, you have to add the obligatory "outdated Vulkan drivers" comment to imply they Android devices would be even faster if they ran optimized code - the usual fallback for the losing team. "If only we had our star player." Funny how you mention the Vulkan drivers but ignore the issue with 3DMark and the A12 GPU ramping up too quickly. I wonder what the scores would be when that issue gets fixed and they can run the A12 when it's cool (instead of starting the test when it's hot).

When we look at the Aztec tests (which are a better GPU benchmark) the A12 is so far ahead of the 845 that the SUSTAINED (throttled) performance of the A12 is higher than the PEAK (un-throttled) performance of the 845.

So I don't see where you're getting your "beaten in sustained performance" from considering the benchmarks clearly show otherwise. To sum up:

"Other than the thermal and peak performance considerations, the iPhone XS and XS Max, thanks to the new A12 SoC, showcase industry leading performance and efficiency, and currently are the best mobile platforms for gaming, period."


Qualcomm has stated the 855 GPU is 20% faster than the 845. If that's the case it still won't catch the A12.

I’d trust DP Review 1,000x more than all the other “tests” you see online. I’ve been buying gear based on their recommendations (and the experience of their users) almost since they started.