ericthehalfbee

My BMW does a lot of this. Night vision can spot pedestrians or animals and they get highlighted with a warning on my heads up display. Adaptive headlights can turn and highlight a person walking on the side of the road.

avon b7 said:

HiSilicon (Huawei) has had 7nm chips in mass production (TSMC) since around June according to many rumours. It has also been said that they have a contractual amount of orders (millions) to be fulfilled for launch phones (suspected to be three models in the short term). 

Apple needs volume on launch because it releases one refresh every year.

Huawei will release four flagship phones over the coming 12 months and as a result doesn't have anywhere near the pent up demand for September/October release. It will be spread out over the year and before year's end the Kirin 980 will also be in mid tier devices as well as non-handset devices.

Quite why this report exists is a mystery as Huawei presented the Kirin 980 just last week to a world audience at IFA Berlin, live blogged and all:

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13302/ifa-2018-huawei-kirin-980-keynote-live-blog

They said it took three years to develop and gave the date of presentation for the first phone to use it: 16th October.

Honor said the Magic 2 would also use it very soon. Rumours point to a December release. They wouldn't have announced that part if supply constraints were expected.

This is the second time DigiTimes has made this type of claim (I'm basing this on AI articles). The first time was when they claimed only Apple and Samsung had the financial resources to bring 7nm to market.

https://appleinsider.com/articles/17/12/13/apple-samsung-could-be-only-smartphone-makers-with-7nm-chips-in-2018

blah blah Kirin blah blah Huawei blah blah 7nm blah blah

Nobody cares about your constant Huawei shilling.

Apple will be the THE FIRST company on the planet with 7nm chips. This is a fact. Huawei "announcing" they have the Kirin 980 means absolutely nothing. Apple will have working iPhones with the A12 7nm chip on September 12th. And they'll have 10's of millions shipping out a week later. Which means Apple would have had already received millions of A12 processors months ago. Unless you think you can fab a processor (in the millions) in only a couple days, and then get them into iPhones (by the millions) in a couple more days.

All Huawei is trying to do is trick gullible/stupid people into thinking they were first, because Huawei knows Apple won't say anything about their A12 processor. So they can yap all they want knowing full well Apple will stay silent. Intelligent people know who's first (using INDUSTRY ACCEPTED STANDARDS). And that is Apple.

Announcing is not shipping. The Kirin 980 is vaporware at this point. Just like last year when Huawei lied and claimed the Kirin 970 was the first processor with a neural processor (the A11 from Apple was first, and the 970 didn't ship until months later) by "announcing" it just before the iPhone came out. Do people actually fall for this crap?



Now speaking about the 980, how come it takes Huawei years and over 1,000 engineers to build a processor that uses off-the-shelf CPU and GPU cores? And still uses the vastly inferior UFS for storage (while Apple will be on their 4th generation NVMe)? What exactly have they developed in terms of IP related to processors?

I see you linked Anandtech, but left out the performance claims. They're stating a Geekbench single core score of 3,300 for an A76 core (as used in the 980). The A11 scores 4,200. So a year old A11 core on the older 10nm process is STILL significantly faster than an A76 core on 7nm. Doesn't seem that impressive to me. At all.

Garbage idea.

I’m convinced there’s no way to solve these technical issues at this time:

- Making a foldable device as “stiff” and “solid” feeling as a regular device when opened. Not in something as small as a phone where there’s no space to put a proper hinge/locking mechanism. I don’t believe they’ll be able to make it feel like a single “piece” (like current devices).
- Eliminating the “crease” where the display bends such that people won’t be able to notice it when viewing content or when swiping your finger across it (gestures). Think of the iPad with laminated display vs the non-laminated one and how much better the laminated one feels.

This will no doubt be be an expensive device, and people will demand a premium feel that won’t be possible.

Then we have other usability issues. Do you now have to open your phone every time you want to use it? People like the speed of picking up their phone and using it right away. This will add another step in using it and putting it away after use. How about scratch resistance? The display might bend, but Gorilla glass doesn’t. How will they keep the screen free from scratches from normal use?


Sorry, I just don’t see this working anytime soon.

chasm said:

My opinion: Tesla is (or at least could be) a great company that could change the world in ways not dissimilar to Apple -- and even on a larger scale, big-picture-wise -- but Musk is starting to believe his own hype, and turn into a Trumpian self-deluded figure. I sincerely hope he snaps back from it, but at the moment I'm sure he is behaving privately a lot like Jobs was at his worst, and I'm sure what we're seeing right now is the result of an internal morale problem.

This isn't a zero-sum game, and for Apple to win Tesla does not have to lose. But I sincerely hope that Apple makes no moves to partner with or invest in Tesla, because the place seems to be a bit of a train wreck right now. Let it sort out its own issues.

I don't think Tesla is nearly as great as many people think. Working in the automotive industry I don't see a single bit of technology at Tesla that every other major automaker doesn't already have access too.

GM (the company stereotyped to be run by dumb ole 'muricans) developed a superior self-driving system and launched it out-of-the-blue (instead of releasing multiple half-finished versions and then updating it - like Tesla). They also decided to make the Bolt, and despite having started on it years after Tesla started the Model 3 they were able to ramp up and produce the Bolt sooner than Tesla.

As soon as the market is ready for widespread adoption of electric cars (which appears to be coming fairly soon) the other automakers will steamroll over Tesla. They'll have the advantage of decades of experience in mass producing vehicles and will be cranking out countless new models of electric vehicles that span every price range and market so quickly Musks head will spin clean off.

avon b7 said:

ericthehalfbee said:

avon b7 said:

ericthehalfbee said:

avon b7 said:

Blunt said:

You can hook the Note 9 up to a bigger screen with an hdmi cable and run a limiteded sort of Windows like OS. That's what i read in the newspaper today. I bet it will look like shit and is totally useless but hey it's in there.

This isn't new. The new part is that you don't need the Samsung dock to make it work and is actually a result of Huawei's own desktop mode which which debuted last year and took Samsung to task for requiring a dock (at significant cost).

It's somewhat limited but if you are in a squeeze without a PC it can save the day.

So, you see people “in a squeeze without a PC” but they happen to have a monitor, HDMI cable, keyboard and mouse lying around to connect together?

No. Just a cable.

So absolutely useless then. A parlor trick to convince elitist users that they're actually accomplishing something.

Edited: Don't you mean a cable and a monitor? Please explain what kind of situation you'd find yourself in where there's a spare monitor handy that's not already connected to a much more capable PC?

Useless parlour trick?

No and no.

Read what I said.

Isn't having a monitor a given? Like when you send an email you need a recipient?

That's what the 'desktop' in desktop mode is. Is it really necessary to spell that out?

The only thing the user needs is a cable.

Why would someone carry a phone and a monitor around instead of a laptop? The monitor you use is the one already present where you are (be it at home or away).

I never said you need to carry a monitor. I said when would you find yourself with an available monitor that isn’t ALREADY attached to a PC. Which you now clarified by saying it would be one you already have (presumably connected to an existing computer at home or work).

Who’s going to waste time connecting their phone to their monitor when they’re at a location with their existing home/work computer? Surely if they have something to do they’d just use their home/work computer instead of a half-assed phone with no keyboard/mouse. That sounds sooooo productive.

Again, a pretty useless feature. With Continuity on my iOS devices and Macs (along with cloud storage) I can seamlessly switch devices to get things done without having to use a hack like connecting my phone to a monitor and try to work sans keyboard/mouse.