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Apple loses antitrust appeal in Germany, now subject to steep fines and regulations
longpath said:This ruling is akin to Lamborghini being declared anticompetitive for not allowing 3rd party (including parts made by Ford & Chrysler) dealer installed accessories in the Temorino.
Apple is a minority manufacturer of phones, tablets, and personal computers. As such, they do not now, nor have they ever had anything vaguely resembling sufficient market control for any other their actions to be meaningfully anticompetitive. This ruling reflects a warped grasp of Apple's actual market share.
By Apple's own numbers it qualifies as a Gatekeeper for phones under EU law.
Car anologies don't work well here due the digital CPS nature of the issue.
Also, many jurisdictions around the world are coming to similar conclusions about Apple's anti competitive practices. The US might end up being one of them.
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Apple loses antitrust appeal in Germany, now subject to steep fines and regulations
rob53 said:Anti-competition... The iPhone market is still less than the android market. Does Germany even try and make and sell mobile devices? I believe they do but the market simply doesn't want them in any quantity. Germany suing Apple doesn't help Germany make their own devices, it simply makes them money off the back of other companies. The EU cartel is the same thing. If you can't make something people want you sue the company that people like. This isn't an antitrust lawsuit, it's simply a money grab because Germany no longer makes products people want to buy and use. --Look at what's happening with its automobile market, it's tanking. Will Germany sue other car companies because they no longer can keep up with technology and the desires of consumers?
It isn't a 'money grab' nor does it have anything to do with the Android market or anything else you bring up.
The Germans aren't making the laws up as they go. There was an investigation and a ruling. Apple presented its case. That is how it works.
Maybe Apple can appeal. I don't know. -
Folding iPhone will probably cost more than the Mac Studio
radarthekat said:Seems like a lot of years I’ve been waiting for the use cases. And a lot of years ago I presented my view of how Apple could bring two separate screens together seamlessly, but it would require a complex hinge mechanism with some sort of edge protector for each screen that steps out of the way at the last sub-millimeter as the phone unfolds and the two screen edges come into contact. That seems the only way to have the same hard surface display as iPhones have today, with no crease showing or forming over time. But what do I know, maybe there’s some miracle tech coming that will allow a hard surface display to fold exactly flat at the fold, like a piece of paper in the hands of an expert origamist. But what is the use case?
And here’s something to add to the story. I had colon cancer last year. Stage 3, bad stuff. Two major surgeries, one to remove a segment of my sigmoid colon and install a colostomy bag and another nine months later to take down the bag and reconnect my innards, plus six months of chemotherapy in between. This had me all day every day laying in bed with one or the other of my two iPhones in hand, watching YouTube or researching investments, etc. admittedly an extreme amount of time with phone in hand, but what if I wanted to lay in bed for just two hours doing a variety of tasks on my iPhone fold, watching video and running spreadsheets, etc, how would I hold this unfolded beast? I mean, I’d want it unfolded for such uses, wouldn’t I? Larger screen better for spreadsheet work and for videos, right? How does one hold an unfolded foldable smartphone for two hours while laying prone?
Current folding phones are actually fairly light when compared with their slab format counterparts being a few grams heavier in many cases.
Obviously, any handheld device is going to be taxing for prolonged periods, and as you say, yours was an extreme situation for which a simple support would have been a perfect option. Many folding phones actually have cases in the box which include kickstands for things like watching video content or reading hands free.
For the situation you describe, a tablet/phone combo would have been the best option as you weren't on-the-go.
Folding phones are really for those that need to alternate between large and small screens without wanting to carry two seperate devices.
Anyway, good luck with the recovery process and checkups going forward. -
Folding iPhone will probably cost more than the Mac Studio
ssfe11 said:Just like everything else people will pay it for status, to feel special, to be different etc.
Apple has the comfort of knowing its phone would be the only one running iOS and that could be enough to get the sale instead of losing the sale to the Android market because a current iPhone user wants a folding phone.
Prices (especially for flip variants) are rumoured to start coming down soon. All eyes are currently on March 20th for a Huawei launch of supposedly 'affordable' flip phone.
A couple of years ago my brother switched his entire family to Samsung flip phones (some were iPhone users) and another brother is using a Samsung Z Fold 6. -
iPhone Air was almost portless, but concerns about EU regulations prevented it
SuntanIronMan said:netrox said:Why would they think it's a good idea to remove port when it can be used for high speed data or recharging more efficiently?
If you look at the recently released Oppo Find N5 foldable, it’s basically as thin as it can possibly be. (Specifically: the half with the USB-C port is basically as thin as it can possibly be.) It’s just ever-so-slightly thicker than a USB-C port. The only way to go meaningfully-thinner would be forgo the USB-C port entirely.
If this iPhone is specially suppose to be the thin phone (that’s the reason why it is being made), then removing the port will help to accomplish that goal.