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danox said:

gatorguy said:

9secondkox2 said:

I doubt apple will be pursuing 5g only with this modem. They’ll need for for fallback and likely borrow the tech, leading to some fees paid to due the minefield of 5g patents. 

But 6g… that’s likely what apple is spending their respurces on, possibly being the first to get there and be a big part of setting the standard. 

I understood that 6G was still 5 years off, minimally. Has the timeline changed? 

EDIT: 3GPP is hoping to finalize the 6G standard by the end of 2028 so that a network can be prepared for 2030 deployment. The standards group also recognized a potential "power grab" by newcomer Apple and has taken steps to neutralize it.

 https://www.lightreading.com/5g/3gpp-moving-to-prevent-power-grab-by-apple-others

Yes it’s a power grab no different than Apple Silicon being released to replace Intel, long-term if Apple wants to build certain devices the way it needs to (a smaller Apple Vision? You know the one that looks like an actual pair of glasses?) they have to leave Qualcomm the patent troll in the dust, and the troll will be kicking and screaming all the way….

Qualcomm will be getting its patent payments from Apple for a long while to come. Same as Huawei, Samsung etc. 

9secondkox2 said:

I doubt apple will be pursuing 5g only with this modem. They’ll need for for fallback and likely borrow the tech, leading to some fees paid to due the minefield of 5g patents. 

But 6g… that’s likely what apple is spending their respurces on, possibly being the first to get there and be a big part of setting the standard. 

I very much doubt Apple will be first to 6G.

That is on schedule for a 2030 launch but carriers will have to have paid off their 5 and 5.5G investments first. 

If they drag their feet on that, 6G could roll out to industrial private networks first (just as with 5G). Apple does not operate in that business.

Worth noting too that (albeit sketchy) rumours are pointing to Huawei launching a 5.5G capable modem next month. 

It's a feature that should have been implemented years ago but Apple and bleeding edge battery tech don't seem to match very well. 

At least wired reverse charging seems to be activated. 

Plus Apple is notorious for drip-feeding functionality and users have no option but to wait for these features to go live. That's just the way it is. 

Kwikiwi said:

Like everything in life, there are multiple views on the EU and their regulations - Some are good and some are terrible - The issue I have with the massive fine the placed on Apple for the tex issue in Ireland was that they retrospectively prosecuted Apple for what a country (Ireland) had done in setting up it's tax rules to attract business to the country - Apple did absolutely nothing wrong in this area and complied with every rule Ireland set them - they made massive investments in the country, and received a fair reward. The EU fined Apple - not Ireland - that is absolutely crazy and completely wrong. The USA should hold the EU to account for that as it is totally unjust.

On the other stuff - Apple does not have a monopoly on apps - there are plenty of options open to consumers - people who decide to buy Apple products do so because of quality, security, privacy and the ecosystem safety - for the EU to dictate that should change is just plain wrong and it is just a form of taxation - again the USA should push back on the EU on this.

In some other areas, such as privacy laws - I think the EU is ahead of the USA - also on harmful content and in this areas I think they are more right than wrong.

Apple was given what some call a 'sweetheart' deal by the Irish government. That was deemed illegal state aid and Ireland had to recover it from Apple. 

The EU didn't fine Apple. 

Was the 0.005% rate for 2014 just or unjust? 

Was Apple, effectively being able to decide what it made available for taxation, just or unjust? 

Apple's efforts in 'negotiating' in this case have been similar to Trump's in some ways.

Propose something you know will get extreme push back, evaluate the push back and try again with something equally bad and see if that passes the sniff test. Inch by inch. 

In this example, 'malicious compliance' is very apt and entirely deliberate. 

That's where we are now. Waiting for the EU to say if Apple's most recent proposals (from last year) do actually pass the sniff test or not. 

IMO, they don't. The Core Technology Fee is my guess at where things might fall short and if that happens a fine will be imposed. That is the risk of surgical precision with compliance. If you miss, things go south quickly. The results of compliance evaluation were always set for next month so they are on schedule. We'll see. 

As for Trump, well, after this weekend's events the US has now lost any remaining good faith that was left within the EU. 

The EU is absolutely fuming and with good reason. 

He moans that the EU sells a lot of food in the US and that the EU refuses a lot of US food. 

That's because that food isn't up to snuff under EU regulations. Compliance again. 

The EU makes the rules and they must be complied with. Like them or not. 

It's the same for Apple. The EU is a 'Walled Garden' of sorts but the door to leave is always open.