melgross

lam92103 said:

Great job Apple! Thanks to your efforts to make sure no sideloading is possible, now Russians have one less avenue to get unbiased content

/s

That wouldn’t help. All the government would have done would have been to ban side loading. It’s like Google leaving China. A great publicity stunt when it happened, but it accomplished,I shed nothing and I deed, made the problem there worse.

companies have zero control over what a government does.

dewme said:

melgross said:

jdw said:

New hardware doesn't appeal to me personally because I want something groundbreaking to happen in iPad OS first.  I've not purchased in iPad in YEARS, and have no plans to buy one until I see real SOFTWARE INNOVATION happen. From the sound of it, a lot of would-be iPad buyers are just like me.

I doubt that very much. Most iPad users aren’t even aware of the controversies surrounding this software OS issue. People keep their iPads because they last a long time, and Apple supports them for a long time. That’s pretty much it. Waiting for some astounding OS update is nonsense. If you get a new iPad, it will perform much better, even on many mundane tasks, and if the update does come out after three or four years, you will get it. So your issue is a non issue.

I totally agree with your sentiment. I’m still impressed with my M2 iPad Pro and don’t have any interest in getting a newer one anytime soon. If I was in the market for a new one I’d definitely get the newest iPad Pro model available. These things have an impressive lifespan due in part to the simplified touch-centric operating system. 

Apple’s Continuity features on macOS have taken the usefulness of the iPad to new heights and provide another reason for owning both a MacBook and an iPad. 

Exactly. There are two catigories of people who complain about the OS. The first is those, a fairly small group, who need to pass files and data among others. It’s generally harder to do that on an iPad than a Mac. The second are people who just like to complain about something they won’t use if it did come out. And regarding that, I’ve found quite a few on some forums, when asked specific questions, don’t know what the iPad does now, leading me to believe that they’re non iPad users just trolling.

danvm said:

danox said:

danvm said:

muthuk_vanalingam said:

charlesn said:

Here's a killer product that Apple could make today, but they won't: the MacPad Pro.  Essentially, it's a 13" iPad Pro form factor that can boot into either MacOS or iPadOS, depending on user choice. M chips are perfectly capable of this. Boot into iPadOS, and it behaves like a normal iPad. Boot into MacOS and the screen becomes non-touch, so you connect a Magic Keyboard and operate it like a normal Macbook. Best of both worlds in one device and no need to figure out how to kludge a touch-based OS onto MacOS. 

I agree completely with you on this. I don't understand why few people in this forum criticize this idea as Fridge/Toaster etc. Apple hasn't shown any interest/inclination towards improving iPad OS features for almost half a decade. Begs the question - why not take the easiest approach possible with the already available software. Also, iPhones will reach the capability to run MacOS in another year or two (if not already there) at the hardware level (SoC, Memory, Storage). And all you would need is a dock to connect to a display, keyboard and other accessories. There will be more people demanding this in the upcoming years in my view.

IMO, the iPad Pro became a fridge / toaster as soon as Apple released the Magic Keyboard, same as the Surface Pro. The difference is in the execution, the iPad is better tablet and the Surface Pro is a better laptop / desktop replacement.

The biggest difference is that Apple actually makes a profit on all their iPad sales every one of them. 

It's well-known that Apple generates significant revenue from hardware sales.  But at the same time, Microsoft's makes huge profits from software and cloud services. Each company capitalizes on its strengths in these areas.

The Surface like the Xbox makes none there is nothing Microsoft can teach Apple about hardware/software design, product execution or in fact anything?

If you ask me, Apple could learn a lot from MS. For example, the gaming experience in PC's and Xbox is miles ahead compared to Mac's and Apple TV (that's the only device I think is similar to the Xbox).  Also Apple could learn from Microsoft about productivity suites, cloud services, business / enterprise applications and AI. I suppose there are more examples. We could also say that MS could learn many things from Apple.  I suppose there is no perfect company. 

Apple and Microsoft have hd different orientations from the beginning. Microsoft was looking to the office and Apple for creatives. That hasn’t changed much. The Surface Pro is just a thing Windows computer, while the iPad is a real tablet. Again, different directions. Apple has been very successful selling iPads, who le Microsoft, by their own numbers, has been far less successful selling Surface Pros. It pretty much tell you which company understands its potential customers more. Apple’s software is also very successful and profitable. They just aren’t interested in Microsoft’s market.

jdw said:

New hardware doesn't appeal to me personally because I want something groundbreaking to happen in iPad OS first.  I've not purchased in iPad in YEARS, and have no plans to buy one until I see real SOFTWARE INNOVATION happen. From the sound of it, a lot of would-be iPad buyers are just like me.

I doubt that very much. Most iPad users aren’t even aware of the controversies surrounding this software OS issue. People keep their iPads because they last a long time, and Apple supports them for a long time. That’s pretty much it. Waiting for some astounding OS update is nonsense. If you get a new iPad, it will perform much better, even on many mundane tasks, and if the update does come out after three or four years, you will get it. So your issue is a non issue.

coolfactor said:

melgross said:

The thing about A.I., for me, is that I’ve been retired for 20 years (no, I’m not 85, I retired at 54). Because of that, most of the features that A.I. is useful for, isn’t useful for me. That doesn’t mean I’m not interested in it, just that I likely won’t be using most of it.

You're already using plenty of AI today. Apple Intelligence just brings even more tools to the surface. Eventually, they will become as useful as typing on the keyboard.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You missed the point. All of those basic. A hi evkearning tasks have been around for years and years. They’re getting better. Great. But what we think of as today’s A.I. is much more obvious. Summarizing emails, messages and various other information, asking questions of your personal information, ChatGPT, blah, blah, blah. Most if that is usekess to me and most other retirees. Most people who aren’t won’t be big users of it either. That is, at least for another generation. When this all becomes as easy and accurate as it is in sci-fi, then it will be used much more. But until then, it will be a small minority who use much of this. Not that I haven’t experimented with a lot of this software.n ChatGPT, Stavle Diffysion and others have shown themselves, to me to be very interesting. If I were still working on my field, I can see myself being deep into it. But not now.