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apple4thewin said:

Wait the years the iPhones release don’t sound right. Unless they changed naming conventions again:

2025- iPhone 17
2026- 18
2027- 19
so 2028 is the iPhone 20

2025- A19: rumored 3rd gen 3nm
2026- A20: 2nm
2027- A21: A18? 1.8nm
2028- A22: A14 1.4nm chip

I would think that there’s not 1.8nm process. Usually we will see at least two versions of a process before  new one comes out. Besides, TSMC, as with Intel before (and Samsung) has been late. The 3nm is over a year behind schedule and likely, so will 1.4nm. 

CarmB said:

That's a problem mainly because the speed of existing processors is more than sufficient to meet the needs of the vast majority of users. Really fast upgraded to faster still, in real-world use, adds up to no discernible upgrade. Asking consumers who already are facing substantial price increases to pay more for essentially nothing doesn't appear to be a good grasp of what will best serve consumers. In the end, the key to success does lie in making your customers happy. Charging more with nothing to show for it is not how you do that. As the price of acquiring the latest and greatest goes up, it motivates consumers to think hard about upgrading from a working iPhone. So if Apple goes to a higher price point with its iPhone line, it will not end well for Apple. The only way this would work would be if there was compelling functionality added to the iPhone experience as a result of a processor upgrade. Current processors are so capable that it seems unlikely this will happen. 

I can’t really agree with that. With many, if not most phone users playing games that need more and more performance, every boost is a good thing. Additionally, for image processing and other performance intensive apps, better chips are always going to be needed.

There’s no point in saying that things are good enough, because they never are. I remember when it was said that the new IBM 286 computer, with that chip, was all that business needed. Then later, that the single core, because that was what everything was back then, 486 was as fast and anyone needed. We hear people saying this over and again, and they’re always wrong. It’s wrong here as well.

So we get two themes here. Double boot into macOS, and keep the iPad Pro as a finger driven UI. The two are incomparable, and this is why Apple is having such a hard time of this. I’ve read many posts in other forums about macOS on the iPad and it’s split about 50/50 as to whether people want a more complex iPad or a simple one. Apple is trying to satisfy both crowds. That’s a reason why the File system folder exists, to have an easy way to get to it, while hiding it from those who want nothing to do with it. But it also makes it a lot more difficult to do it in a way that seems easier to use and understand. As it is, it’s more than a bit confusing and overly complicated in how you get from one thing to another.

its also more powerful in some ways that many people don’t realize, but less powerful in way that many people do realize. So it’s an awkward child. It they could smooth out the wrinkles and give a few more thing that would be useful, it would help a lot, without going overboard. But remember that the iPad screen, even the 13” Pro, so that without making major changers in the UI, macOS simp,y isn’t going to be comfortable to use. I’ve had several apps that allow me to control my Mac through my iPad using my Mac Ui as on my 27” 5k screen. It’s not fun folks! In fact, I’ve given up. It’s a terrible experience shoehorning a Mac onto an iPad screen and trying g to use your finger. This is what Microsoft did with the Surface Pro and they had to lower the effective resolution of Windows to do so. So I think it something like 1024 x 768 or maybe now, with the bigger screen, 1280 x 1024. Either way, you lose much of what you had in your screen so that your finger would work. And it’s still awkward. Maybe that’s a reason they only sell a few million a year, instead of tens of millions.

i don’t want that here. And if people who keep demanding macOS on the iPad would actually stop and think for a little while, they would realize that they don’t want it either.

swat671 said:

charlesn said:

Hope springs eternal for these changes but Apple has long been resistant. There was similar hope for iPad OS 18, especially after the debut of the all-new Pro iPad models, but that hope died at WWDC. We'll see this year. If Apple wanted to give the iPad Pros a real sales boost, make them capable of booting into either iPad OS or Mac OS at the user's discretion, which Apple Silicon can do. In iPad OS, it works as usual. In Mac OS, you lose touchscreen capability and it operates just like a Mac, requiring the use of Magic Keyboard with the built-in trackpad. Apple could do this today. No merging of 2 very different OSes required, no need to figure out how to bring touch to the Mac, no blah, blah, blah whatsoever. Boot into whichever OS makes the most sense for your needs at the moment. Macs have been able to boot into Windows for how long? 

Macs could use BootCamp only on the Intel chips, so 2006-2020. 

But before that, Apple had sold boards for their Macs with an entire Intel computer onboard for that purpose. Then other companies did. I remember Orange and a few others.

I buy the Max phones and so does my wife. These are already pretty expensive. I’m wondering at what the cost of these will be. There are a lot of different reports on pricing and it’s clear that no one knows what that will be. It will be a lot, that much is certain. I haven’t decided if I would want one of these or not.

To me, as with a lot of other people, the cameras are of major importance. So far, every folding phone has had inferior cameras to their other tombstone flagship. if that’s the case here, it rules the phone out.  Albeit a second generation model would work. When the iPhones first came out, I had a Palm 700p. I wanted the iPhone, but saw nothing major that would make me buy it as I wanted 3G, which my Palm didn’t have and third party apps. The 3G, next year had both. Even though the first phone could use the App Store, a great innovation, it still didn’t have 3G, or GPS, which the 3G did have, and so I bought that one.

maybe something similar will happen here.