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Soli said:

madan said:

Remember that it's 5999 PLUS TAX and Apple Care.  With those additions, that computer almost hits 7000.  If you upgrade the RAM yourself and the storage (the measly 256 GB) yourself, you're looking at another 500 dollars MORE.  And that's BEFORE you even look at a real graphics card.  The Mac Pro's 580 is only 30% faster than the AMD APUs in higher level 3400Gs.  30% over integrated graphics isn't "powerful".  So by the time you sink another 1000+ in a Vega 2 card, you're looking at least 8500 dollars (probably closer to 9000).

And even then, you could build a Mac with 90% that performance for a quarter of the price.

What a weird statement within a thread of your weird statements. It's bad enough that you state "PLUS TAX" at all but then you put it in all caps as if this is some hidden Apple Tax that no other vendor has to apply to a purchases.

People forget to consider taxes all the time. Are you seriously taking issue with this person reminding people that taxes are something to consider?

Would you also complain about someone pointing out that $5999 is just marketing speak for $6000? It’s a known fact that this is a manipulation of perception.

Forgetting the sales tax is a trap, too, even if it’s not a marketing decision (due to variable sales tax rates).

lkrupp said:

AppleInsider said:

It's common to hear that Apple's global sales -- at Average Selling Prices that are often several times that of its rivals -- are just a matter of the company being able to fool people into thinking that they need something that is wildly overpriced and should actually be half the cost, and really should have been delivered two years ago.

This paragraph describes the AI comment sections in spades. How often are we treated to screeds declaring Apple is just a marketing company? How often are Apple users labelled iSheep or Sheeple? How often do we slog through voluminous paragraphs issuing demands that Apple do this or that to survive? Once again Dilger has hit a nerve.

For crying out loud, all I see are defensive posts like yours. Where are all the hostile anti-Apple posts in here? Were they removed before I got to the comment section? These preemptively defensive posts remind me of meat eaters preemptively bashing vegans on Bored Panda.

One person here got blasted for “2K+ anti-Apple posts”, and the poster doing the blasting had quoted a perfectly rational and reasonable comment as an example. [throws hands up in the air]

No, the Apple cult is NOT dead. Like the USA’s biggest religious group, the Apple cultists just seem to have decided to take the role of the oppressed, despite being the majority in all spaces where they post and complain about so-called anti-Apple commentary.

I’ve seen commentary critical of Apple, and it was legit, measured commentary. I’m one of the people who get targeted for making such criticisms. As for the claimed illogical and arbitrary hate, that’s not me and neither is it most of the minority of criticism expressed by a tiny minority of people here.

The defensiveness speaks volumes. The occasional jerky anti-Apple comment does not in any way justify this level of defensiveness, nor does the media attitude at large justify these extremely wordy and defensive editorials.

I’ll never subscribe. If Apple want to keep missing the point of their own business, that’s on them.

What an embarrassing release for a major new iOS (and yes, I’m refusing to call every version of iOS by a separate name).

It’s funny that, if I remember correctly from a story posted here, Apple tried to get the cell companies to take iMessage as an SMS replacement. Companies said no. Apple turned it into an Apple-unique, and apparently desirable, feature.

The notion of any marketing that points out the envy or whatever this is supposed to be... it’s so wrongheaded.