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If it ain't broke don't fix it?

I am no fan of Facial ID. If I downgrade to an iPhone X then I'll have to revert to passcode only.
As a motorcyclist I have my phone paired to the Bike's Audio System. Like a Handsfree setup in a car, an incoming call can be answered by the press of one button on the LH Handlebar controls. My Helmet has speakers and a microphone for Inter-bike intercomm so I can use my phone on the move.
To make a call, I'll stop the bike take one glove off and either use the passcode or TouchID to get in the phone.
Face ID is no use to me when on the move at all.
I know this use case is a common one but it frustrates the hell out of me when Tech companies remove useful stuff that large numbers of their customer use in favour of something new and cool.
Over the years, I have lost count of the number of times that I have had to battle against this very thing on the software products I worked on.
  

mknelson said:

Slower speeds of chip card transactions? Do you guys process them "weird" in the US?

Insert card, hit OK, enter PIN, done. Doesn't really take any more time than signing.

And someone sees your PIN and then uses an RFID reader and slurps the card details. What then eh? They go on a spending spree on your card. None of my cards have RFID chips but I can still use Apple Pay.

jbdragon said:

I've been pretty sure that Supply would be limited and demand HIGH. That people many people are going to have weeks to wait. I have no interest in one myself.

Earpods Mk 2 on the way. Sigh.
Why do Apple have to make things so difficult to make???? Especially fot the V1 releases.

SpamSandwich said:

Mike Wuerthele said:

tnsf said:

Apple will not reveal the models on separate dates, plain and simple. Not going to happen.

We here at AI are HIGHLY skeptical about the report. And, we're concerned that mainstream media will pick up and run with it, and lack context.

Evidently they already have. Anyone look at the price of AAPL this morning? It's down $3.66 as of this moment!

IMO, its highly irresponsible and harmful to investors and the readers here to even air such flimsy rumors.

Well, last week, a load of professional shorters got well and truly burned. Perhaps this is payback time?
Just guessing.

franktinsley said:

It's amazing to me how little imagination people have. It seems so obvious to me that they made 3D face topology scanning work plenty well enough to make touch ID obsolete. Now you'll be able to use your phone without even thinking about security and you'll get all the same security as touch ID. Apple has made changes like this A MILLION TIMES. How can everyone here not get this?

There are huge limitations with Facial Recognition. Let me give you an example.
I ride motocycles. The law means that I have to wear a crash helmet. In winter I wear a silk balaclava underneath that. Coupled with active tint glasses there is often no bit of my face visible.
How would facial recog work then eh?

Now, with touch Id, I can simply stop the bike, take off one glove and touch the phone and I can use the phone. My crash helmet has BT connectivity to my phone.

Then you get people on building sites who have to wear protective gear and it is unlawful to remove them outside a building. So tinted safety spec would in many cases stop facial Id from working.

We shall have to wait and see how it works in reality but I am sure of one thing and that it Facial ID is not something that I want or need. TouchID works and "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".
Just my thoughts on the topic which aren't worth anything so can be ignored.