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hmlongco said:

Basically he applauds Apple for standing up to them and then with his "rules" pushes the door wide open against the very thing they're standing against. 

Once you open the door you open the door not only for the US government but every government under which Apple sells phones.

And today it's just "terrorists", but tomorrow it's terrorist and pedophiles, and the next day it's terrorist and pedophiles and drug dealers, and the day after that it's terrorist and pedophiles and drug dealers and suspected criminals, and then...

No.. you fail to understand. The courts in this case are MAKING law by using a catch all law called All Writs Act. This law is basically something that can be applied when courts find themselves facing something that has no law that applies.

The PROBLEM with this is its far, far to generic.. Which is why so many are up in arms. What Mark Cuban is saying is we cannot allow the All Writs Act be used. We must require very narrow, specifically written laws from congress to be written to ensure their is accountability and limits.

The courts should not be making law, thats congresses job.. or is supposed to be! Otherwise we'll leave the "doors open" for future precedence in court.

rogifan_old said:

If this was never Apple's intention to begin with why didn't they say that from the very beginning and say they were working on a software update to fix it?

Because they never do that. As a rule they tend to work on the issue then only once a solution is available do they weigh in..

pmz said:

"It's just one phone".

It is NOT just one phone. It is THE FIRST phone. The critical one that sets the precedent and can never be undone. Its everything.

Exactly. This is why those like the NRA fight tooth and nail when it comes to legal precedent. Once you have 2-3 or more cases its like trying to move a glacier; since Judges tend to go with common law precedent.

This is why the FBI and Justice Department chose this case, since this case involves a dead terrorist, they felt they had a way to get the public on it's side. Even though the circumstances of this case are very unusual.

Reality is they have access to most of the data already from external cloud based services.. but they are not making that well known to the public. They want the front face of this depicted as Apple being in the way of public safety. This is, without a doubt, a beach head move to force backdoors in general.

They can cry, "but.. .but... It's only ONE phone" all they want; thats NOT what this will end up being.

mobius said:

Okeeeey...but why did we need a Harvard University study and a cryptography expert to tell us something this obvious?

Because we have warning labels that tell us drinking something hot might burn you. lol We live in a socially were if it's not broken down in the most simplistic view, people often completely ignore it.. and then, even though it's their own fault, want to blame someone else anyway.

Rayz2016 said:

I thought they were building an electric car, in which case they shouldn't be able to hear it.

The vehicle 'project' likely tests all kinds of things, and helps to field test things like Apple CarPlay accessing current vehicle diagnostic info.. something it's been missing like weather, engine notifications like change oil, engine temperature, tire pressure, etc.

Their are a lot of things Apples Automotive Department is likely going to be working on, other than just making an electric car. It would be massively foolish to get all that automotive talent in one place and utilize it for just a single electric car project.