maestro64

Any one who works at any larger company with diverse work force will tell you it's not unusual to see a spread of 5% to 10% in wages between people doing similar work. Not all people start at the same time and everyone does not get the same raises. And list goes on. I ran a departments of 15 engineers and tech personell with experience ranging from just out of colleges to 20 yrs of experience and the wage difference was 20% to 30% many of there people did about the same work but they definitely did not deserve the same pay. In all the years managing professionals only once did have to deal with someone who was under paid. This person was hired by someone else at the company and when they came to my department I saw they were almost 1/2 of where they should have been, but is was not the companies fault, it was what the person asked for to leave their current job to come to company. They did not negotiate their pay.

All these people who think everyone should be paid the same are the same people who want to give  everyone a participation awards at kids sports. 

My kids played lots of sports and got their fair share of those trophies, eventually they figured out none of this meant anything except the ones they felt they actual earned. They through away all those participations awards  and kept the ones they actual got for winning and they contributed to the win.

I think the better solution is not to allow the device to store or transmit these kind of image or even take those kinds of photos. Like the color photocopy industry did when the government found out how easy it was to photocopy money and have it look real. Today if you try to photocopy currency you will just get a black image or it just will not produce a copy.

 It is not Apple is not in the business of report laws being broken or spying on people to figure if they broken some law. If they care about kids then prevent the device from contributing to the crime.

I am starting to think this whole App Store Law has nothing to do with antitrust, the government knows if it was about antitrust they would just use the laws already on the books and take Apple to court and make them divest. I believe this is government backdoor solution they been trying to gain on the iPhone. Think about how many time the government screamed about gaining access to the phone and threating to take Apple to court. This has never happen, they claimed they did not have too since they got the information they wanted. The reality of the situation was the government would never have won, otherwise, they would have done it, but they also did not want to loose and create case law which would make it hard for them.

If the government passes a law to allow other stores, that mean Apple will have to reduce their security or provide the credential to other stores load software on the phone. Once this happen than in theory the government could also gain access, either going to one of those stores or creating their own store.

I have to throw my hat into the I am not liking the direction this app is heading rink. I have been a user since version 1. I really like it especially when they added IOS support. I keep all my important information in 1pw, got my CC numbers,  license for software and other information I want locked up but need from time to tome. I like the fact you could sync without going to the cloud, grant it is not automation it required a manual sync but keeps the private information local to my devices. 

The latest version 7 is problematic, I hate the fact if you do not store your vault on 1pw cloud, you first have to open stand alone app and unlock the password file on your computer before Safari can access the local copy of the vault. 1pw is pushing everyone to the subscription only model and using their severs to store your vault and sync across devices. You also have to have a subscription to have two people on the same computer us the App. A single license not longer works on multiply login on the same computer.

Safari Keychain password has improved over the years and now works across apps on IOS, but it limited to passwords and CC numbers it does not easily store other personal information.

fastasleep said:

maestro64 said:

As I said before on this topic, comparing a Hash from a known image to an Hash of another image only works if both images are exactly the same. If the image that is being compared is modified in the least bit the Hash is no longer the same. Does anyone believe the people who are involved in this stuff are going to be that stupid to store these items on their phone exactly as they in the database. Especially now that this has been highlighted all over the place. If apple wanted to do this and catch these guys they should have never disclosed this information publicly.

Yes, they are that stupid. But if not, it's able to detect modified/cropped/etc images. You don't understand how this works. 

The police are only catching the stupid idiots who down load this stuff to their home computer. The major trafficers of this stuff are not being caught, if they were it would have been plastered all over the news. 

Wrong. Tons of shit is getting caught online. Facebook reported over 20 million alone last year. Google, 546K. Microsoft, 97K. Snapchat, 144K. Dropbox, 20K. etc, etc. Have a look, the data is right here, look at the list of online service providers on this page and take a guess as to whether they are using more invasive than Apple is to find these 
https://www.missingkids.org/gethelpnow/cybertipline#bythenumbers

And, there are plenty of reports of major traffickers/servers being taken down. You can easily find articles about these things if you search for them. 
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-government-shuts-down-largest-child-porn-marketplace-dark-web-2019-10

They do not care if your rights and privacy are violated in the end.

Again, you apparently don't understand how this works.

Instead of telling me I do not understand, explain how Apple is comparing a Hash of one image to a Hash of another image and then saying it is a suspect image. I understand how Hash works, every file has a unique Hash by definition of a Hash and once the file is altered it now had a it own unique has. Keep in mind Apple said they can even make the determination if the file is encrypted, which mean they are not opening the file. I am not talking about the analysis they are doing on the phone, it what is being done via Icloud and images being sent via message which both encrypt end to end. The only way to do what they are claiming is to open the file and do a image analysis.

Also if you read the missingkids website the 20M image they claimed were reported are just suspect image not proven to be actual images. Caught up in these picture are people posting baby image of their own kids, which by law you are allowed to take naked image of kids as long as they do not show private parts. Also caught in these images are the School Girl Porn of over eighteen made to look less than 18. As well as high school kids sending nudes to each other. Which is find interesting, over 18 you can send nudes to anyone over 18, under 18 and can not send to another under 18 but they both can be in a home and be naked together and not break any laws.

 Yeah the one website got shut down and the people who were running the website were arrested. They are not the people creating the images that is who you need to catch. And most of the people being caught are the stupid idiots who go to Law enforcement sting sites and down load to their home computer and the people come a knocking i read about these people all the time. Or some idiot who thinks he talking to the little kid in some chat room and is convince to meet the police officer who pretending to be a kid.