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  • Apple's cheaper iPhones are not the volume sellers pundits predicted: iPhone 8, X are

    gatorguy said:
    tmay said:
    gatorguy said:
    avon b7 said:
    wizard69 said:
    It is pretty delusional to believe that pricing isn't an issue.   It is pretty easy to argue that Apple could have sold a lot more iphones if they didn't price the things so high.
    If you're going to participate in comments, don't just show up and throw out a shovel of ignorant, shallow garbage.

    Apple set up a range of prices and the most popular weren't oriented to price, they were targeted at new styling and features. Surely you can piece that together.

    Android offers tons of cheaper options, but those maker aren't earning any profits and will eventually go out of business just like Nokia, Motorola, HTC, HP, and all the other low end Android makers in China that have already failed. 

    It's not clear Apple could build phones much faster than it currently is. If it lowered prices to boost demand, how would it build more at a lower price? Right now, Apple can afford to spend on advanced equipment and tooling and shipping to get products to market. How does it lower prices? Why should it? It's already neck and neck with the volume leader. Production has natural limits. 

    But again, when you offer ideas, make sure they have some value beside cynical snark. And point to some company that's doing better. Google priced its phones very low and couldn't sell them. It then tried to sell phones like Apple, and couldn't sell them. It's not easy. 


    His comment didn't need to go any deeper. 

    The 8 and X series were released late last year. There are only two quarters of official results to go by and Apple doesn't break numbers down so no one knows what is really happening. That's where analysts jump in with their numbers (estimates).

    Not long ago, analysts were claiming that the low end made up a sizeable chunk of Apple unit sales. More than 20%. That's for old hardware. Not shabby at all and while they may not be the 'most' popular, they seem to be popular nevertheless. Obviously price is a factor.

    Apple's sales remain flat. They have been for a long while. That doesn't look like its changing.

    People talk about Android discounting but I keep reading about Apple promotions for 2x1 8 series phones. I haven't seen one myself, though. I haven't seen a 2x1 flagship promo for Android flagships.

    People talk about small Android handset makers going out of business. That's consolidation. It happens in every mature market. What people don't see so clearly is that there are an unthinkably large amount of those handset makers still in business!

    So where are the sales of failed business going? To other handset makers. Android handset makers!

    Last year Huawei moved into second spot in unit sales, overtaking Apple. Apple clawed that position back with its peak quarters on its annual release cycle. Last year Huawei shipped 153,000,000 units. This year, their own goal is 200,000,000 units. That is massive growth and will put them into second spot again if they realise that growth.

    Widespread opinion places the P20 Pro as the best handset of 2018 at several hundred dollars cheaper than an iPhone X.

    You say that Android handset makers aren't making any money but Huawei is selling millions of phones, making billions and producing high quality innovative products.

    Rumours point to Apple reducing prices this year. If that happens you'll have to ask yourself why.


    FWIW ATT already did an iPhone X BOGO months ago, as has Sprint. TMo did a buy one and get $700 off another. TMo also had equivalent deals for some of the latest LG's and Samsungs. Deals on even new flagships aren't at all uncommon, including Apple's top of the line. 
    Were those Apple subsidized discounts and BOGO's? 

    Almost certainly not.; just carrier discounts to pick up a few switchers.

    Betcha that Android OS device makers are quite likely to provide carrier incentives to drive share acquisition.
    Neither of us know do we? You're guessing and I'd be doing the same. 
    Look at the prices of the S9 and the iPhone X on contract in the UK and yet the iPhone X still outsells the S9.
    tmayAlex1N
  • April Fools: get ready for the worst jokes in the tech industry

    Dracarys said:
    sfolax said:
    "April Fools" then continues to post links to his own previous articles. DED, you need to relax a little and stop being so defensive on everything.
    How many times does this have to be said? No. One. Else. Is. Calling. Out. The. Media. The whole point of DED articles is to defend against what no one else (except the Macalope) will call out as the preposterousness that it is. The whole point of the article is to be defensive, because most normal tech media attacks Apple all the time and builds up these false narratives. 
    Except that DED isn't using facts. He's building his own false narratives to fit his own needs. 

    The regular media is NOT attacking Apple, they just aren't always shining Apple as being flawless and that rubs DED the wrong way. It's a FACT that Siri is falling behind, it's a FACT that Chromebooks never went after the enterprise market (why would they? What enterprise is going to go for a web browser based OS? It makes no sense at all). 

    This article is so self serving that it's not even funny.
    Google have been going after enterprise for a long while.  As a member of an IT user group for a local authority, Google have been trying to get us to let them bring their Google bus to demo their products for several years now. 
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  • Apple responds to reports of worn batteries forcing iPhone CPU slowdowns

    k2kw said:
    I don't understand how an iPhone 7 could have this problem already-  mine seems fine.  Apple should give the user a notification when they do that and let them know they can get the battery replaced.   Does AppleCare cover they battery replacement?   It should.

    All those android fans with their replaceable batteries will be crowing about this. 
    I have had 5 android phones. None have had replaceable batteries. 
    netmage
  • Apple nixes plans to incorporate under-glass Touch ID in 'iPhone 8,' insider says

    Certainly hope it has a Touch ID sensor somewhere. 1st choice would be under the screen, second choice on the rear, third choice on the power button like Sony phones, and last no Touch ID sensor at all. 
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  • A very false narrative: Samsung Galaxy S8 vs Apple's iPhone


    I believe iMore did a blind camera test last year and iPhone didn't come out on top. Most smartphone cameras these days are good. I'm not convinced someone would switch platforms over the camera though.
    In a blind camera test, most people tend to choose the photo with the highest colour saturation. However that is not usually the most colour accurate photo. Apple concentrate on providing the most accurate photo, not the most oversaturated. This blind camera test was not run solely by iMore but by Mobile Nations, its parent company, which includes Android Central, Windows Central and Crackberry as well, so the poll wasn't just iPhone users.
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