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As someone with over 100 Hue devices, I wouldn't recommend Hue to anyone who isn't an engineer. They're actually quite finicky. You end up having multiple hubs to deal with the 50 device limit. When a light burn out, there's no easy way to replace it- you have to adjust all your automations, switches, etc to talk to the new light. This tech just isn't ready yet (and I've use it nearly 15 years).

Makes sense. It’s boring and slow moving. The only story line that’s any good is the emperors, and that’s the one that has the least to do with the book. Only the special effects are original. 

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jimh2 said:

JP234 said:

Is anyone surprised that people who can work for a psychopathic a-hole are a-holes themselves? The boss a-hole has already crapped out and flushed anyone who isn't his brand of a-holery, and not just in Tesla. He should wind up just like his hero, Nikola Tesla, a con man/hustler with one good idea and a lifetime of bad decisions leaving him alone, friendless, staggering drunk on his own Kool-Aid.

Can you provide us a list of your accomplishments? I will say 100% certainty you have done little to nothing that is even noteworthy whereas Musk, whom you describe psychopathic a-hole, will remembered as one of the greatest leaders in history:

• Tesla: Against all odds he created a successful car company and brought EV's to the masses. No other car company has been able to come close to what he has done and they are established manufacturers with everything to make a car in place. They chose to get passed by a newcomer. I still do not have much hope for Ford or GM and Toyota has mostly sat the quest for EV's out. I am not sure how anyone will catch Teslain the near term as he is years ahead and not letting off of the gas.
• SpaceX: First privately developed liquid-fueled rocket to put a commercial satellite in orbit. First private company to successfully launch, orbit, and recover a spacecraft. First private company to send a spacecraft to the International Space Station (ISS). Has rockets that return to their takeoff spot. Prior to SpaceX Lockheed Martin and Boeing sat on fat, competition free contracts with NASA delivering the status quo, with no hope of every doing what Musk did.
• Starlink: Created a company delivering Internet to numerous area and countries that stood zero change of getting high speed service. The market leader prior to Starlink was Hughes Net which pales in comparison to Starlink even though it is early stage.
• PayPal: Cofounder.
• Add in battery production, work on solar and probably some stuff I cannot think of.

Note that this is more than one good idea. That is four game-changing companies he founded, co-founded or leads. As close to Steve Jobs as anyone has been in a long time. No question his behavior is questionable, but he has gotten results. If you have someone to compare him to please let us all know.

PayPal wasn’t profitable until after Musk’s departure.

Musk didn’t create Tesla, he bought his way into it.

SpaceX is successful despite Musk, not because of him. They actually have someone who’s paid to follow Musk around and make sure he doesn’t do too much damage any time he tries to involve himself with SpaceX. The person who runs SpaceX is Gwynne Shotwell. But of course, as with all of his other ventures, Musk loves to take credit for other people’s work while blaming others for his incompetence.

If Musk didn't create PayPal because it wasn't profitable while he was there, then he certainly created Tesla because it wasn't profitable when he wasn't there. I love how your points contradict each other- that's a sign of motivated reasoning if ever there was one. That said, Elon Musk is legally recognized as a Tesla founder and prior to his involvement the company had zero products and zero revenue. He definitely built it from the ground up.

As for Shotwell's work at SpaceX, if you're saying she's a great leader, then there goes the premise that the people who work for Musk are a-holes.

I doubt Tesla owners would object. They generally consider the company to be above criticism. I mean when Tesla took their money for "Full self-driving" in 2014 and still hasn't delivered it, their only reaction was that they wish they'd paid more! Or when Tesla became the only company that doesn't offer CarPlay or Android Auto, their reaction was that they are just glad their steering wheels are (mostly) staying on.

JP234 said:

Sounds like an ill-timed, but productive visit. Certain elements in the Legislature and right wing media are sure to make hay out of it. But if you ask me, good business ties with China are super important, even in the face of recent geopolitical events. China will to be less inclined to damage their best customer.

Lol. Do you think Russia is less inclined to damage us after we
— gave them Ukraine’s nukes
— gave them the USSR spot on the security council
— shut down our own rocket engine manufacturing and made our rockets dependent on their engines
— made them key partners in the ISS
— let them genocide Chechnya
— let them conquer Georgia and Moldova and Crimea
— gave them Big Macs and iPhones

Of course not. Dictators can’t stop themselves from attacking us. We need to be ready. Apple is making us dependent rather than ready.