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M68000 said:

Why are people so up in arms about this?  If you have nothing to hide why are you fighting Apple’s attempt to make the world safer from criminals and sick people?   This “ceo” made the amazingly stupid comment about “presumption of guilt”?   Well,  at least in the United States a person is innocent until proven guilty.   

I’m frankly amazed by the feedback in this forum in the last few days,  people who trust and love Apple and now don’t want to help Apple try to make the world safer.  

If you work for any large company I hope you know that any email, chat messages and files on company computers can be looked at and scanned by security and network admins.

if you want total privacy,  get rid of cloud storage and maybe go back to using a typewriter LOL

Apple does not want their products used for crime and is making an attempt to do something about it - what is so hard to understand?

Let’s say if it’s not about child abuse, what if Apple decide to do other things?

For example, if Chinese government wants Apple to match Tian An Men or Hong Kong or Muslim Uighur related photos and report to Chinese government in exactly the same way, what can you do in this situation?

If for anything Apple’s algorithm gone wrong and match your perfectly fine photo as one in the CSAM database, do you want to be suddenly under investigation? Because although the process is hashed, if you are under investigation there will be some officers actually looking at your photos. And algorithm won’t ever be perfect. Didn’t you get Facebook warning about violence when posting a cute dog? Photo matching can’t be this clumsy but if you ever study any algorithm it’s based on confident threshold, which is opposed to 100% accurate.

In summary, this means only one thing - that Apple has a 🔑 key that can and is willing to look into your private data. Saying not to use this and that features is useless as saying don’t buy iPhone or go back to use typewriter.

At the time, Intel also insisted that its chips provided a better experience for consumers.

What? How can a slow and expensive chip provides better experience for us? We just want CPU that is faster and cheaper and less heat. That’s all about CPU experience. We don’t care if it is Intel, Apple, Microsoft or Motorola.

People are arguing about number, technical, history, etc would miss the most important point: Apple just make it works.
Most users don't care wether it uses ARMs, Intel, AMD, that architecture, this technology, etc. They care only that they can actually use it.
It does not matter that Apple made any technological advancement or anything. If people can buy it at reasonable price and use in everyday life. It's the end of story. The rest are just nerd chat.

I have 2015 15-inch MacBook Pro and 2018 iMac for work use.
I also just built a custom PC with Core i7 Gen10, 64GB 3200 RAM, NVMe Drive, and a 3080.
That PC blue screened me twice in a month - unrecoverable and need to reformat drive. I've never seen my Mac crash at that level in my 10 years in this platform.

If I can play a game at 4K 144Hz in my iMac I would not even bother touch a PC again. I bought that because Apple cannot do that. I don't care if I have integrated Intel graphic or Apple Silicon or nVidia 9090 or whatever inside that I would not even see it.

Anilu_777 said:

Sounds like what happened to BlackBerry when they launched BB10. But Apple will manage this. 

It’s different because we’re speaking about perfectly find websites that are already used in Mac. We only don’t get an app for that which, if we get, is a bonus, not essentials.

Pascalxx said:

I don’t understand the merit of having native apps for many of these when they run just as well in a browser, especially the streaming services and the Google apps.

Me too. We’re now saturated with apps. Can’t see any reason why we want a Facebook or Twitter app on Mac. (Unless they offer pro functionality like TweetDeck.)