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davebarnes said:

"Everyone wants a real keyboard on their phone. iPhone will be destroyed by Blackberry."

When the iPhone came out, it was presented as combining three already ubiquitous but separate devices - a phone and email client, an iPod, and a camera - and crucially, adding a unique third one, a usable web browser. Arguably, no one bought the first iPhone because it lacked 3G, and it didn't really take off until the App Store, but the value of having three high quality(!) devices and a web browser in one was apparent right away.

The VisionPro does a similar thing: it combines a computer with camera, mic and speakers; multiple monitors; and a large TV screen; and adds unique three-dimensionality/spatiality. Few will buy it because this combination is only valuable for few people (singles and frequent travellers), but once it becomes cheaper and multiple VP's can be connected and sync'ed together, I can see a use case where families use this for work and play and, finally, we can ban these ugly-ass TV screens from our dens and living rooms.

It won't be a headset on every head, like the iPhone or the Apple Watch, but it will have broad appeal in 5 years to 10 years. I love the weight: at 453g it is only 70g heavier than the AirPods Max. Not featherlight, but perfectly wearable without straining your neck.

W_D_Richards said:

charlesn said:

It will be interesting to see if CarPlay and Android Auto continue to dominate. Tesla has shown that you can sell premium cars without supporting either one, but it's still a relatively small player in car sales. The bigger test will be GM and whether its abandonment of both in favor of its own system will hurt sales. Personally, a lack of CarPlay support is a non-starter. I was a loyal Lexus customer for more than a decade, but when it came time for a new car in 2019 and Lexus STILL wasn't supporting CarPlay, I switched to Acura. Of course, now Lexus supports it, but they've lost me as a customer. I absolutely would have shopped GM because of their superior self-driving tech in some models, but now I wouldn't even consider a GM car without CarPlay. 

.... Well, that is EXACTLY the key feature I want in a car: it must work seamlessly with my iPhone. CarPlay fills that need.

I venture to say that you don't necessarily need a car that works with your iPhone. What you want is a car that works seamlessly with *the data* that you buy and access through your iPhone. Just like an iPad is not tethered to your iPhone, nor is your computer, a carOS shouldn't have to either.

baconstang said:

PASS.
I want a good looking, reasonably accurate dumbass monitor.  No cameras.  No mics. No speakers.  
Sigh...

I always wondered why so few monitors ship with integrated camera and mic. We demand these things in our laptop, why do you not want them on your monitor? 

It would be preferable to have an infotainment service that does not rely on a mobile phone - I leave my phone at home a lot, but it must be fully integrated with Android and/or Apple Apps and the respective data on iCloud; and switch automatically based on the driver's key that is being used. Even if GM manages to do this with Google, do they really want to narrow their target market to Google/Android clients; I doubt Apple will allow a Google system full access to data stored in iCloud.