firelock

fastasleep said:

firelock said:

fastasleep said:

firelock said:

mr. h said:

fastasleep said:

danvm said:

fastasleep said:

entropys said:

I want one USB-A port instead of the fourth TB port.

i suspect that is unlikely..

Yeah, replacing modern ports with old, slow ports are what makes a real Pro computer. 

Do you think that the latest Mac Pro is not "real Pro computer" because it has USB-A ports?

No. What kind of question is that? You're talking about a basic I/O PCIe board which is an option to buy (as far as we know) on a giant machine where you're not removing built-in 40Gbps Thunderbolt 3 port and replacing it with a shitty 5Gbps USB-A port, which are two completely different things.

No need to replace any of the TB3 ports. There's plenty of room in that chassis for the TB3 ports and a USBA port. And an HDMI. And an SD card slot.

What I don't get about apologists for the MacBook Pro's stupid port offering is: how is adding more ports a bad thing? Would anyone possibly be actively put off buying a MacBook Pro if it had four TB3 + USBA + HDMI + SD Card?

I was in a meeting yesterday with my MacBook Pro and someone asked if I could project a PowerPoint that had just been emailed to the group. Now when I know that I am giving a presentation I always make sure to lug along Apple’s humongous USB-C to HDMI adapter. But this was impromptu and so the answer was, no, my ridiculously expensive “pro” laptop could not connect to the industry standard HDMI cable on the table. And before someone says we should have an Apple TV or some USB-C adapter built-into the setup, keep in mind that this is a big corporation with dozens of conference rooms and an IT department that acts like it is the early 2000’s. I can barely get my Macs on the network.

Guess you won't make that mistake again.

LOL, the hyperbole — "lug" "humongous" — it's like what, a couple grams? You know there are much smaller ones, right? Throw this on your keychain and never get caught off guard again. It's $12 and tiny:

https://www.amazon.com/CHOETECH-Keychain-Thunderbolt-Compatible-Pixelbook/dp/B075FKL7MC/



You guys sure aren't very good at preparing for your jobs.

Not sure why you think it is necessary to throw shade at another poster. But you can at least try to get the point of the post which is that I shouldn't have to carry around a bunch of adapters on what is ostensibly a pro laptop. Long time Mac users will remember there was a time when the pro moniker meant it came with all of the additional ports that pro users need. And if you are just going to be a jerk please don't respond. Thank you.

The “additional ports that pro users need” is not defined. Only a small minority of users need HDMI. I used myself (a pro user) as an example earlier — I could use miniDP ports as that’s what I “lost” when upgrading, but I would never assume all other users should be saddled with them for that reason. I’ve literally never needed HDMI. 

MY point is that this problem is very easily solved, at which point it becomes a non issue. Anyone who chooses to continue to repeat the ridiculous hyperbole about something that is not going to change when they could easily just fix the issue in seconds is not good at problem solving. No amount of complaining is going to change reality. So why not call people out for it? It’s a discussion on the internet, and it’s not personal. I suggest growing thicker skin. 

fastasleep said:

firelock said:

mr. h said:

fastasleep said:

danvm said:

fastasleep said:

entropys said:

I want one USB-A port instead of the fourth TB port.

i suspect that is unlikely..

Yeah, replacing modern ports with old, slow ports are what makes a real Pro computer. 

Do you think that the latest Mac Pro is not "real Pro computer" because it has USB-A ports?

No. What kind of question is that? You're talking about a basic I/O PCIe board which is an option to buy (as far as we know) on a giant machine where you're not removing built-in 40Gbps Thunderbolt 3 port and replacing it with a shitty 5Gbps USB-A port, which are two completely different things.

No need to replace any of the TB3 ports. There's plenty of room in that chassis for the TB3 ports and a USBA port. And an HDMI. And an SD card slot.

What I don't get about apologists for the MacBook Pro's stupid port offering is: how is adding more ports a bad thing? Would anyone possibly be actively put off buying a MacBook Pro if it had four TB3 + USBA + HDMI + SD Card?

I was in a meeting yesterday with my MacBook Pro and someone asked if I could project a PowerPoint that had just been emailed to the group. Now when I know that I am giving a presentation I always make sure to lug along Apple’s humongous USB-C to HDMI adapter. But this was impromptu and so the answer was, no, my ridiculously expensive “pro” laptop could not connect to the industry standard HDMI cable on the table. And before someone says we should have an Apple TV or some USB-C adapter built-into the setup, keep in mind that this is a big corporation with dozens of conference rooms and an IT department that acts like it is the early 2000’s. I can barely get my Macs on the network.

Guess you won't make that mistake again.

LOL, the hyperbole — "lug" "humongous" — it's like what, a couple grams? You know there are much smaller ones, right? Throw this on your keychain and never get caught off guard again. It's $12 and tiny:

https://www.amazon.com/CHOETECH-Keychain-Thunderbolt-Compatible-Pixelbook/dp/B075FKL7MC/



You guys sure aren't very good at preparing for your jobs.

mr. h said:

fastasleep said:

danvm said:

fastasleep said:

entropys said:

I want one USB-A port instead of the fourth TB port.

i suspect that is unlikely..

Yeah, replacing modern ports with old, slow ports are what makes a real Pro computer. 

Do you think that the latest Mac Pro is not "real Pro computer" because it has USB-A ports?

No. What kind of question is that? You're talking about a basic I/O PCIe board which is an option to buy (as far as we know) on a giant machine where you're not removing built-in 40Gbps Thunderbolt 3 port and replacing it with a shitty 5Gbps USB-A port, which are two completely different things.

No need to replace any of the TB3 ports. There's plenty of room in that chassis for the TB3 ports and a USBA port. And an HDMI. And an SD card slot.

What I don't get about apologists for the MacBook Pro's stupid port offering is: how is adding more ports a bad thing? Would anyone possibly be actively put off buying a MacBook Pro if it had four TB3 + USBA + HDMI + SD Card?