cropr

apple ][ said:

There was plenty of hype for 5G this year in 2019, however it was all meaningless, as 5G wont mean anything until Apple enters the game.

foljs said:

I don't see how Spotify's metrics are relevant.

For one, everybody (including Apple) knows that Apple Music is 90% for the Apple ecosystem users.

Those, if one includes all macOS/iOS users, are still much smaller compared to Android and Windows users.

And Apple doesn't much care about those others (even if they will e.g. make a client for Android, like they have a Windows iTunes).

So I don't think Apple expects to get the non-iOS/macOS part of the market, and thus doesn't expect to ever be larger than someone that does...

chasm said:

Couple of things:
1. I notice the story makes no mention of profit. Has Spotify finally made one?
2. They’re comparing their “paid” subscribers (most HEAVILY subsidized and don’t directly pay anything, see various promotion partners ... not sure most of that group would pay if they actually had to) to old figures from Apple (four months ago).

They’re still ahead in “paid” subs (unless you look more closely), but still losing money, not paying artists, still in court about that, and don’t have a plan to turn that around. How do you have 100+M subscribers and not turn a profit?

GeorgeBMac said:

Hopefully, Apple is patient enough to wait till its own modem provides functional advantages over Qualcomm modems -- rather than rushing it just to escape from Qualcomm's greasy, greedy clutches,.