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  • EU lawmakers unfazed by Meta's threat that it would pull out of Europe

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    JWSC said:
    I can just see the collective outrage if Facebook and WhatsApp were removed from the EU market.  Facebook, while a tedious medium to many, is still wildly popular. Many people have built their entire lives, businesses, and social networks on the platform. While painful, I have no doubt that Meta could and would do it if they believe their entire business model is threatened. Yanking it unceremoniously from the unwashed masses would prove to be very unpopular, and Meta would make sure everyone knows who is to blame. Obviously, Meta would prefer not to do this. But it's no bluff.
    I would not mind that Facebook app went away because Meta does not respect the privacy rules in the EU.   The gap will quickly be filled by other apps.

    For the WhatsApp app, this is a different story.  Thanks to very strict restrcitions the EU has imposed when Meta bought WhatsApp, the EU consumers have a much better WhatsApp  EULA than the American consumers.  With end to end encryption and no link allowed between a Facebook profile and WhatsApp,  WhatsApp has become the default messaging app in the EU, even between iOS users
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  • Apple wants 27% commission for Dutch apps using third-party payments

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    Beats said:
    Apple should charge 35%

    30% store fee and 5% to cover the hassle, customer support inquiries and stupidity of lawsuits against Apple if something were to go wrong and Apple is sued etc.

    That would be extremely unwise.  In most countries, you can appeal but not bypass a decision of a judge.  This would not only result to heavy fines but the EU  commission might see as a proof of abuse of monopoly of the Apple App store towards the iOS app developers.

    Even with the 27% Apple is giving the wrong signal to the EU commission
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  • Epic vs. Apple takes new turn as 34 US states & DOJ side with 'Fortnite' maker

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    22july2013 said:
    cropr said:
    Bosa said:

    Without the App Store, these developers will be selling their apps on USB sticks in front of Costco?

    These developed are just ungrateful losers
    i am a developer and I am  not a loser.   If Apple would allow, I would offer my customers the option to download my iOS apps from the secured cloud server I've set up for my other apps.  You are not only disrespectful, you should try to think before making silly remarks 
    I'm not hostile to your comment, I'm just asking if you are talking about free iOS apps or if you want to be selling apps for iOS from your own server and you want to directly charge users some money for those apps, and presumably not giving Apple any compensation for the things it provides, like all the free CloudKit services that may be compiled into your apps, for starters. If so, that wouldn't seem fair at all.
    My most popular app is an e-voting app for general assemblies of large organizations.  The voting app (iOS, Android, Web) is free of charge.  The management of the system is a separate and paid Web application that integrates with the IT system of the organization. In terms of complexity and development, the client voting app represents only around 20% of the effort.

    The Apple revenue is limited to the iOS developer license ($99 a year) and the infrastructure I need to develop and test the iOS app (3 Macbooks Pro, 2 iPads, 5 iPhones).  The voting app started as a Web app, and I only made an iOS and Android version of the app on request of a large customer.   Currenty 10% of the votes are made by the iOS app, 15% by the Android app and 75% by the Web app.    I don't use Cloudkit, because it is not cross platform, which is a hard requirement for my app.

    In the past  I developed 6 iOS apps where I paid Apple the 30% (it was still 30%):  4 were loss making and 2 were about break even (for me, not for Apple).
    muthuk_vanalingam

  • Apple makes it clear it will get its app commission regardless of payment method

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    rob53 said:
    avon b7 said:
    Cesar Battistini Maziero said:
    Very fair, they developed an audience and a platform people trust, they deserve a cut. 

    Every online store gets a cut from sales.

    It's already bizarre that they can't control their own store.
    Nobody controls their own store. Before you can even open one there are huge amounts of rules and regulations to deal with. 

    On the face of it, this comment by Apple does not appear to be in the spirit of the rule but we'll have to see how it plays out. 

    At the end of the day all of this is basically part of a bigger puzzle and no one knows what it's going to look like yet. 
    Looks like plenty of stores control their stores. I don’t know of any store that allows vendors to use a store’s space for free. Apple provides the store, provides access to it by developers and they have to be paid just like any other store. 
    Indeed, but I don't know any store where the vendor has to pay a commission to the store owner.  Normally this is a fixed fee per month.

    williamlondon

  • Apple makes it clear it will get its app commission regardless of payment method

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    waveparticle said:
    Apple is perfectly entitled to collect the commission. Without Jobs invented the iPhone there is no developer app ecosystem. Developers need to thank Apple providing this opportunity to get rich quickly. 
    Do you realize that according to marketing research 90% of the apps are not profitable for the developer?   The only one who is getting rich quickly, is Apple
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