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gatorguy said:

The EU has different competition laws than the US. "Google's platform or OS or ad service and if you don't like it use someone else's" isn't a defense as far as they are concerned. 

You could take that 3rd paragraph, substitute a different name, and perhaps end up with the same result IMHO.
"(Blank) has cemented its dominance in (blank) and shielded itself from competitive pressure by imposing anti-competitive contractual restrictions on third-party (blank)," she said. "This is illegal under EU antitrust rules."

Note that the EU says "market dominance is not illegal under EU antitrust rules. However they have a “special responsibility” not to abuse their powerful market position by restricting direct competition."

ArianneFeldry said:

Developers are being treated badly? Developers are being treated like gods today, especially when compared to how they're treated when they had to sell their products in a box at stores. Even then, if you are a developer that makes an application for free, you're treated like royalty. You pay the developer fee to Apple, then you get access to hundreds of milions of people, you don't have to pay bandwidth costs or hosting to push the application out to customers, you don't have to worry about security concerns with hosting the application, you don't have to set up some review system or integrate one into your site. Then if you want to add an in app purchases to allow customers to support you, you don't have to set up a payment processor, you don't have to get your customers to input any payment information, you don't have to worry about international pricing or taxes, they just click on a button and pay.

applesauce007 said:

I say ban the greedy bastards from the App Store and the platform all together.

gatorguy said:

Considering that this is in the EU which has different views on "unfair" competition than the US I would not discount the possibility of the EU Commission stepping in with a formal investigation on Apple's App Store. Whatever decision would be reached would of course apply to Google Play as well. 

qwerty52 said:

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welshdog said:

"and considering the money they're making on it, shouldn't I be getting a share of that? "

We need either a Federal law or even better a Constitutional Amendment that grants every citizen absolute ownership of their personal data. No use of that data without remuneration. No use of SSN without tokenization like Apple Pay or similar. Companies should not be indemnified if they lose the data we have allowed them to use. No enitiy is entitled to our data. They have taken it because no one has stood up and stoppped them.

-Are you talking a cash payment only or is a trade for services rendered OK?
-Is profit allowed or are you expecting break-even?
-What about the credit bureau's, banks, and other lenders who use your personal data to evaluate you for extending credit?
-Would it be OK for you as an employer to do a background check, or for an insurer to check your driving history and accident record?

All these things require that your personal data be stored somewhere. Is signing your agreement to access it sufficient or are you still demanding to be paid in actual money?

A lot of questions are raised by what you think is a simple matter. I look forward to your comment.

 There is a big difference between your personal data be stored somewhere with your knowledge, and the same data be sold, and resold, and reresold....... without your knowledge. And as far as I know, Google is not a bank, nor an insurer.......

Nor is Google selling or reselling any of your personal data. No a single byte. 
But your credit bureau, bank, pharmacy, grocer, credit card provider, and insurer is doing so without your express permission and without notification to you of when a transaction occurs.

Yeah there's a HUGE difference, Google doesn't market personal data. 
But your cable company does. Your cellphone provider does. Your credit bureaus does. Thousands of data aggregators do. Companies like Oracle and Acxiom and Corelogic do.

Google places ads on behalf of Apple, Grandma's Kitchen, and others large and small. The personal data they may have to make the ads more efficient never leaves them, is never sold and never traded. 

So is knowing that your credit card provider is selling/sharing your personal information and purchase history enough to make you stop using or applying for credit/debit cards?
Is knowing that insurers are selling/sharing your personal information enough to stop you applying for or using insurance policies? 
Is knowing that your cell carrier is selling/sharing your personal information including location stats enough to stop you from using your iPhone or carrying a cellular device?
Is knowing that your TV/internet provider is selling/sharing your personal usage information including programs watched and times viewed enough to stop you from using your cable and/or internet service?  

I doubt it. I suggest your concerns are misplaced due to ignorance of what's actually going on, or  you're not as concerned about your personal privacy as you play it up to be. If the "action" you've taken is not using Google Search you done essentially nothing to protect or control distribution of it. Google wasn't selling your personal data to begin with.   

What are you talking man? Google’s  business model is selling your personal data. Thanks to you, they got their money