sirlance99

cloudguy said:

darkvader said:

starof80 said:

What about the rumors of the second HomePod? I was going to buy that when it came out.

Maybe you can buy the first one at fire sale prices.  It would be worth buying for $50.

(And by that I mean $50 for a pair.  $50 for one is far too much.)

I am hoping that you are joking. In case you aren't, the discontinued Google Home Max costs $160 refurbished. No way the HomePod is going to be anywhere near that cheap.

n2macs said:

sirlance99 said:

ionicle said:

Enjoy your peaceful sleep while it lasts......

Whatever!! Not everyone is all of a sudden going to buy a Apple car. Some are BMW, some are Ford, some are VW ONLY. Even now there is no one car that overwhelming outsells all others combined. Plus people have different needs. Apple will not be able to fit all those needs. 

That’s what they said about the iPhone, iPad, etc. You don’t have to be the market leader to get most of the profits. Quality over quantity.

ionicle said:

Enjoy your peaceful sleep while it lasts......

tmay said:

GeorgeBMac said:

GG1 said:

GeorgeBMac said:

fastasleep said:

Sidebar: For all the geniuses who were like "Foxconn can't make cars blah blah" in other threads:

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/apple-partner-foxconn-to-form-ev-partnership-with-fisker-1.1567958

The part many miss is that an EV has far fewer moving parts -- actually, it has far fewer parts -- than the old ICs.

And, many of the rest of the parts (like brakes, wheels and tires, suspension parts, etc) are pretty industry standard and can be obtained from third parties.  The original founders of Tesla said that they had planned to buy door handles and such that way but the problem they ran into was that, although they were available to buy, their volumes were too low to attract suppliers.

But, a company like Foxconn in a country like China probably would not face such restrictions.

I suspect that autos and auto manufacturing will be turned on its head over the next couple decades.

Here is one that could do that.  When was the last time you paid less than $5,000 for a new car?

A budget electric vehicle (EV) selling in China for $4,500 (£3,200) is now outselling Tesla's more upmarket cars.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-56178802

I highly doubt that this car will make it to the US or EU (in its current form) due to crash safety regulations. The auto blogs are lit up this morning using this same clickbait headline.

Would you drive this car on normal roads/highways in the US or EU? Perhaps it could be classified as an NEV.

Yeh, I agree.  We won't see that car in the U.S. in its present form.

But say that those safety regs double its cost.   It would still be half the price of anything available here today.  While Chinese manufacturing prowess may have something to do with that, I would think it is mostly due to it being EV and eliminating a lot of expensive parts -- combined with bypassing American demands for performance (a top speed of 62mph just won't cut it here).

Here, Tesla's are high priced, high performance cars with expensive self-driving features added on.

This shows what could happen (is happening!) if you drop those high end features and simply develop a basic, bare bones EV.

Tesla provides Level two "full self driving", which isn't actually "full self driving" capable, that capability actually requiring a minimum Level 5, as defined by the SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers).

https://www.synopsys.com/automotive/autonomous-driving-levels.html


But the following is a more interesting link, about why Tesla has such poor manufacturing;

https://evfarm.substack.com/p/apple-and-tesla-are-never-ever-getting
“Back of the cabinet mentality” meets “pee on the tree and leave”

Musk is a fraud, and a narcissistic one at that, who like Ex-President Trump, leads a cult of personality.

It won't end well for Elon.

I post the following as it is informative and entertaining;

https://twitter.com/loudribs/status/1365000618356535297

and this;

bageljoey said:

cloudguy said:

omasou said:

Let's see a show of hands...who would like a folding phone...anyone...anyone...Buller...Buller...crickets.

Every. Single. Thing. That. Apple. Adopts. After. Android. We. Go. Through. This.

LOL!  Where to start?  Did you really imply that Apple only developed a smart watch because they were copying Samsung’s success in the category??
Samsung invented styluses?  Samsung invented 5G? Samsung invented mobile payments? I suppose Samsung invented the smartphone too...
I mean, Samsung has been early to market with some things. Ok. But that is a very long way from meaning Apple is copying them. 

But whatever. If your angry, Apple only makes Samsung knockoffs fantasy makes you happy, go ahead and live there!