sirlance99

bestkeptsecret said:

StrangeDays said:

sirlance99 said:

applesauce007 said:

Very, Very cool.  Apple really needs to make people aware of iPad Pro + iOS 11 features.
This will eventually lead to the iPad Pro replacing a lot of Macs and MacBooks.
Go Apple!

Fixed that for you

That doesn’t make any sense. Most people who own ipads do not also own Macs, thus its far to say any non-purchased laptop/desktop would be a PC and not a mac. Can you more clearly explain the negative narrative yarn you’re spinning?

Don't piss all over his troll parade!!

StrangeDays said:

cloudmobile said:

sflocal said:

Amazon is like Google in that it's building as much crap as they can in the hope something sticks.

This will fail, or at most will be just a barely-used curiosity.  Stop wasting time and money and work on your core services.  It's amazing that this company barely makes a profit, yet still has a stock-price that in no way correlates to any kind of reality that we live in.

Good grief. The same hypocrisy on this thread that is on so many others. If Apple wants to enter a new field or debut a new product, whether it is music players, smartphones, tablets, smart watches/wearables, IoT, VR/AR, TV and music streaming, ebooks (all of which had viable, profitable, traction-gaining products before Apple entered) it is a good thing. Great for consumers, the market, technology, humanity as a whole. But let other companies do the same thing? Evil. Wrong. Copyright infringement. And so on.

It is funny that fans of the company that renamed itself from "Apple Computer, Inc." to "Apple Inc." in 2007 precisely because personal computers were no longer going to be their primary product because since then they have moved into areas like mobile devices, wearables/IoT, AR/VR, AI, streaming media, cloud, green energy, original entertainment etc. and plans still more expansions into the future is telling everyone else to stay in their lanes. Seriously?

As far as the old "create as many new products as possible in the hope that something sticks" it is very simple to answer that: structured versus RAD. Waterfall versus agile. Apple is the former, along with IBM, Cisco, Microsoft, HP, Oracle, Sony, Nintento, Intel, and the American telecom companies (AT&T, Comcast, Time Warner, Verizon etc.). The latter includes Google, Amazon, Facebook, Salesforce, Qualcomm and a lot of the South Korean/Taiwanese/Chinese hardware companies (Samsung Mobile, Nvidia, Acer, Asustek, Huawei). Which of those are doing better right now? Before you answer, realize that the former legacy waterfall group also included the likes of DEC, NCR, RCA, GE, Motorola, Eastman Kodak, Xerox, Toshiba and Mitsubishi. Which means that nearly all have been bought by foreign competition (RCA, Motorola), have all but exited the hardware game and are now eking along as software/services only (AT&T, NCR, IBM) or flat out no longer exist in a meaningful sense. By contrast the only major RAD company to have truly gone belly-up was Sun. Which means that not only is Apple the biggest company in the world, but also the last major player of its kind. 

Remember that before you mock all these other companies for not having the same product strategy and overall business model as Apple. Because nearly every other company that does things the way that Apple does is either out of business, heading that way or is only surviving as as a shell of its former self. Meaning that what works so well for Apple will probably not work as well for well for everyone else. And for that matter, it is highly debatable how Apple's way of doing things worked before the iPhone or will continue to so after it as more and more things shift to the very platform-independent web and cloud based models that you folks mock Google, Amazon, Facebook etc. for using to make billions, with a good chunk of it coming from Apple's own hardware and in competing with Apple's own software and services.

Apple is not just the last of the older generation of tech companies, but in fact the most successful public corp in human history. 

foggyhill said:

So, people will buy cheaper product even though they'd actually buy the more expensive one if they had the money to do so... Well, aint that surprising (sic).

Isn't that the whole reason why people buy Android phones?

Apple is aspirational, sadly not everyone gets one; but they wish they could...

StrangeDays said:

scottkrk2 said:

Apple's place in the world has changed, under Steve Jobs Apple was an innovator and a leader, now it has become a follower with a great legacy of design, retail, engineering and supply chain management that Jobs built up over a decade.

Apple management needs to change it's approach to adapt to its new place in the world and ditch the secrecy.

PS Could someone please tell Phil Schiller that he is not channeling Steve Jobs or being 'courageous' by dropping 3.5mm headphone on the iPhone 7 (Apple should have waited to next year's new design), neither was ditching USB-A ports, magsafe, etc on the new MBP (should have just replaced the two TB ports with USBC/TB3 ports).

Sour grapes nonsense. Apple isn't following with the best smartphone, tablet, notebooks, desktops, payment system, smartwatch, and now wireless headphones. Each of these devices has a mind-blowing amount of hardware engineering innovation, much of it invisible from the outside and thus overlooked by most. And you cite supply chain management but you do realize they're still king of JIT supply chain and Cook brought that.

But oh, not enough legacy USB ports. Uh huh.

ericthehalfbee said:

Funny that Move can bring more items over to the iPhone (like SMS) than Google can bring back. Simply because Apple has stricter privacy permissions than Android. Meaning any migration tool will always work better going from Android to iOS than iOS to Android.

SMS/iMessage is a HUGE one for me. I keep a lot of conversations around, sometimes even years after they're finished. Very useful if you want to go back and check a conversation you had with someone (for me a big one is tenants and discussions over any agreements we made). And this is one area Apple doesn't allow developers to access. There isn't even a Permissions setting to give you the option to allow access. Same for call logs.